Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft but suspended for the first 5 games

Ohdang said:

Not all of us who hate Pryor as a QB do so because of ESPN. Some of us just have eyes.

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Eyes for what, ignoring his play on the field because you hate him personally?

The terrible injustice of a 5 game suspension. The NFL didn't have to let him play at all. They could have told him to go hang out with Clarett and wait until next year. The real reason it's no big deal, he's not going to play the first 5 games anyway. That's why nobody cares.

It's an argument over the principle of the thing. When the fact is they could have denied him completely until next year.


I don't care what he did at Ohio State, I'm not an Ohio State fan. I don't care about his numbers in college. I think he's a waste of a draft pick. Even a late one that normally doesn't matter. He doesn't measure up to to the accuracy that this offense requires or that of an NFL quarterback. The real danger of the guy is the Ohio state homers that will hate him when he sucks and love him when he's good or when McCoy throws a pick. He's always going to be a distraction on this team. You're never going to escape it if he's standing on the sidelines. You can't have your #3 guy causing rumblings. Already started, look at all this controversy over a guy that's probably never going to start a single game, ever. As Browns fans, you damn well know what I'm talking about. We've had nothing but controversy since new Browns day 1. If we're 5-9 and McCoy short-arms one, people will be shitting bricks over how much stronger of an arm Pryor has.

First round QB's are cheap now.

b00bie said:

Eyes for what, ignoring his play on the field because you hate him personally?

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I don't hate him personally, I don't care about him at all, I'm just not wearing homer glasses like you are.

I care about his lack of accuracy and his decision making both on and off the field, but I wouldn't mind seeing if he can play receiver. With a league minimum, fully un-guaranteed contract that he signed after he wasn't drafted in the supplemental.

Ohdang said:

I don't hate him personally, I don't care about him at all, I'm just not wearing homer glasses like you are.

I care about his lack of accuracy and his decision making both on and off the field, but I wouldn't mind seeing if he can play receiver. With a league minimum, fully un-guaranteed contract that he signed after he wasn't drafted in the supplemental.

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I don't see what Pryor has ever shown that would make anyone think he could be a good receiver. What I did see at Ohio State was a guy who shies away from contact, and that doesn't seem like a guy who can play WR in the NFL.

To me he's a quarterback or nothing.

Ohdang said:

I don't hate him personally, I don't care about him at all, I'm just not wearing homer glasses like you are.

I care about his lack of accuracy and his decision making both on and off the field, but I wouldn't mind seeing if he can play receiver. With a league minimum, fully un-guaranteed contract that he signed after he wasn't drafted in the supplemental.

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There are quarterbacks with far less tools who get drafted far earlier.

Accuracy is a fixable quality in a young QB.

God given abilities like he has, are not.

b00bie said:

There are quarterbacks with far less tools who get drafted far earlier.

Accuracy is a fixable quality in a young QB.

God given abilities like he has, are not.

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You're right. Accuracy is a fixable quality in a quarter back.

However, I view his God given abilities as a deterrent to my previous statement. How many quarterbacks have we seen that rely solely on their God given abilities? Russel, Vick, Young to name a few. Vick has openly stated that in Atl he relied on his talent to get the job done. He didn't become an elite quarterback until he went to jail, had everything taken from him, and realized that only hard work would get him back to where he wanted to be.

In the NBA everyone comments on LeBron and how unstoppable he would be with a post game. Well why hasn't he worked on his post game? Because he thinks his talent is enough.

Sure I may be generalizing, but everything from Pryor's history and attitude at OSU leads me to believe he will be in this class of "entitled' player work ethic and his career in the league will be extremely underwhelming.

One thing that continually angered me with Pryor was him scrambling out of bounds with the ball. For significant losses even though he had time to get rid of the ball. And it wasn't like he did this sparingly or just his Freshman year either.

It honestly made me question where his head is at sometimes. That and how he would come out and throw a beautiful deep ball with perfect touch and accuracy and then put one in the dirt on a five yard out route.

I'm not opposed to taking a flyer on him if its on the super cheap but I won't be crying if we don't get him.

The reason why I don't want Pryor is because he destroyed a once-great football institution in THE Ohio State University. He got my idol Jim Tressel fired.

He is the devil. He belongs in hell with all his little friends.

Yep, that's my biggest problem with Pryor, between the ears. Even if someone fixed his accuracy, can you fix his personality?

I'm a huge Buckeye fan, just graduated from OSU a year ago and I love Jim Tressel.

However, Pryor didn't get Tressel fired.

Tressel got himself fired by lying.

Cavs21MVP said:

Tressel got himself fired by lying.

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I dont think this get's typed enough

And I still support Tressel. He made a decision, and he went down with it.

Cavs21MVP said:

I'm a huge Buckeye fan, just graduated from OSU a year ago and I love Jim Tressel.

However, Pryor didn't get Tressel fired.

Tressel got himself fired by lying.

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It was Pryor who caused the chain reaction of dominoes to fall though.

Pyro Kinesis said:

It was Pryor who caused the chain reaction of dominoes to fall though.

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Pryor never played at Youngstown State. It was only a matter of time before some of Tressel's rule bending there came to light as well.

But let me be clear, I support Tressel and I understand the notion behind turning a blind eye to his players getting a little change here and there. Unethical? By the archaic NCAA standards, sure. But the NCAA standards are simply broken. When the government tries to regulate things like health care, in the same fashion the NCAA is regulating athletes income, everyone flips out talking about how they are entitled to the best health care because they can afford it. Certain players in the programs, like a Pryor or a Cam Newton, put asses in the seats and take their teams to bowl and championship games as soon as they get on campus. How have they not earned the right to capitalize on that monetarily while playing?

The media sensationalizes these minor infractions that happen at every university. Personally, I think EVERY school has a program that bends the rules in some way shape or form to keep their players from robbing liquor stores like the group of football players did down here at University of Tennessee.

Im a traditionalist when it comes to sports, I want team before player, and I love the symbolism of amateur sports. In the same sense, I dont blame these guys for needing some money in their pockets at 18-22 years old. NCAA Players ARE BROKE while at school and complying with NCAA regulations as well as sacrificing their time during offseasons for OTAs and minicamps and all of that.

The system is broke, and Im personally tired of everyone making these kids out to be villains for getting table scraps and discounts on things that ordinary college students get any day.

There are musical prodigies who get scholarships, and still make money doing shows every weekend off campus. I had a guy in a class last semester who was driving a hummer, while on scholarship, and missing classes to do audio engineering at concerts in Nashville.

My biggest problem with Pryor is and was never whatever he got into off the field. It was with his sideline temper tantrums. He was constantly blowing his cool and showing up his teammates and coaches, and that's not a good thing out of the guy who is supposed to be the leader of your team.

To me a quarterback is like the pilot of a jetliner. He's supposed to stay calm and even-keeled regardless of the situation. Pryor didn't do that enough. It's something he needs to work on.

GreasySpread36 said:

My biggest problem with Pryor is and was never whatever he got into off the field. It was with his sideline temper tantrums. He was constantly blowing his cool and showing up his teammates and coaches, and that's not a good thing out of the guy who is supposed to be the leader of your team.

To me a quarterback is like the pilot of a jetliner. He's supposed to stay calm and even-keeled regardless of the situation. Pryor didn't do that enough. It's something he needs to work on.

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