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Re: Three-Way ORL/LAL/Cavs Rumor

If talks between HOU and ORL get serious, I'm sure HOU is going to want permission to talk to Dwight. If Dwight sends signals like "I don't want to go there, at all, and there is 0% chance of me resigning", can HOU really justify trading all of that young talent??

ORL is beating around the bush trying to see if a team gets desperate and ups their offer. Soon they will get serious once they think they have the best offers their going to get on the table, and then we will see where this thing heads.

Cavs just gotta sit tight.
 
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killerkev369 said:
Do you actually believe Dwight would come out and say that to the media? He says it behind the scenes. If he said it directly to the media, he would be hated even more than he already is.
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With how he's handled this entire catastrophe, that actually wouldn't surprise me..
 
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Laker's Board said:
-After that blow up, Orlando then changed their "wants" yet again, now focusing on wanting to get cheap expirings, rather than a proven player, along with multiple picks & cap relief. But the rumor was, they still indeed wanted the all star, AND the picks, cap relief, salary dumps, etc. That scared away EVERYONE, including Atlanta, and even Dallas(as if they could even muster a package to begin with), leaving the Lakers still there...and Houston. Word is, without the Rockets in the picture LA would've already had this trade completed, but now they're being leveraged against the Lakers.
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So the Lakers and Houston are not part of 'everyone' ?
 
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godfather said:
Difference between market and city.
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and there is a difference between media market and the actual market which a team draws from.

The way a region gets chopped up for media markets is inconsistent throughout the country. Miami is the 5th largest urban area yet is the 16th largest media market only 2 spots ahead of Cleveland.
 
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Here are the nation's top markets in terms of television households from Nielsen Media Research.

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Philadelphia
5. San Francisco
6. Dallas-Fort Worth
7. Boston
8. Washington
9. Atlanta
10. Houston
11. Detroit
12. Tampa, Fla.
13. Phoenix
14. Seattle
15. Minneapolis
16. Miami
17. Cleveland
18. Denver
19. Orlando, Fla.
20. Sacramento, Calif.
21. St. Louis
22. Pittsburgh
23. Portland, Ore.
24. Baltimore
25. Indianapolis

A side note: According to Forbes' "Hottest Sports markets" article, Houston was not among the top ten (Nor was Cleveland or Orlando).

Sports Media Watch Explains in detail the NBA market size numbers game... Here is an excerpt, and the list:

With so much talk about how big market NBA teams have a better chance of winning than their small-market counterparts, here’s a quick look at some misconceptions about market size in the NBA.

Of the 29 U.S.-based NBA teams, 22 play in one of the nation’s top 25 television markets. Considering that there are 210 Nielsen-designated television markets in the United States, an argument can be made that there are zero small market NBA teams. The league’s smallest TV market, New Orleans, is 52nd....

That being said, some NBA markets are certainly smaller than others. Take as an example Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, the nation’s #16 market. With its 1.581 million TV homes, Miami is nowhere close to New York (#1, 7.515M), Los Angeles (#2, 5.667M) or Chicago (#3, 3.503M). It is, however, barely ahead of Cleveland (#18, 1.526M), Orlando (#19, 1.453M), and Sacramento (#20, 1.409M).

In fact, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and company play in a smaller market than the Timberwolves (#15 Minneapolis has 1.754 million homes) and Pistons (#11 market Detroit has 1.884 million).

Of course, it was James, Wade and Chris Bosh who began the latest ‘sky is falling’ storyline in the NBA, that of superstar players leaving their beleaguered small market teams for big market bullies.

That certainly wasn’t the case for James, who moved from Cleveland to a city with fewer ...
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List:

# Market # of TV Homes Teams Record (as of Mar. 9)
1 New York Knicks /Brooklyn Nets

2 Los Angeles Lakers /Clippers

3 Chicago Bulls

4 Philadelphia Sixers

5 Dallas-Ft. Worth Mavericks

6 SF/Oak/SJ Warriors

7 Boston Celtics

8 Atlanta Hawks

9 Washington, DC Wizards

10 Houston Rockets

11 Detroit Pistons

12 Phoenix Suns

15 Minneapolis-St. Paul Timberwolves

16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale Heat

17 Denver Nuggets

18 Cleveland-Akron Cavaliers

19 Orlando-Daytona Magic

20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto Kings

22 Portland Trail Blazers

23 Charlotte Bobcats

27 Indianapolis Pacers

32 Salt Lake City Jazz

35 Milwaukee Bucks

37 San Antonio Spurs

45 Oklahoma City Thunder

48 Memphis Grizzlies

52 New Orleans Hornets
 
Re: Three-Way ORL/LAL/Cavs Rumor

Triumph36 said:
you also have to take into consideration lin bringing asia into the situation.
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Precisely. They were already pretty big there with the Yao connection, and this will only help their popularity there.
 
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MoFlo said:
Precisely. They were already pretty big there with the Yao connection, and this will only help their popularity there.
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Do we think Dan Gilbert 'n Co. can make Cleveland climb the list?
 
Re: Three-Way ORL/LAL/Cavs Rumor

The US Census considers the Houston area to contain an area called "Baytown". They consider the Cleveland area to be Elyria to Mentor, which seems pretty on target. So I took the Census at its word.

I've never been to Houston, so what actually constitutes the Houston area is unknown to me.
 
Re: Three-Way ORL/LAL/Cavs Rumor

Howard wants to be in LA or New York. With all due respect to Houston, they're not those cities.

I really don't care what he wants though, he's a total loser, and Houston would better off not trading the farm for his services.
 
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i'm not too keen on giving up Zeller or Tristan...I really like how this roster is set up and the personalities of the new guys seem to mesh well. Bynum is a great player, but he could throw all of that out of whack. I would get over it, but I'm kind of liking this team in it's current form (with Zeller and Tristan). There is something to be said for chemistry.
 
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Is there any chance that we can get a player like Duhon out of the deal? His contract is not TOO awful to eat and he would be a very servicable PG to manage the game when Kyrie is on the bench? If we got Bynum, Duhon, and Richardson for AV and a whole bunch of picks, that would set us up pretty well to be a playoff team this season and contend in the seasons to come if Bynum signs on for the future.
 
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Bynum will be a force in this league for about 5-7 more years (if healthy). As much as a like Zeller, he is a role player. Bynum can be a dominant player. If you can get a dominant, game changing player in the NBA, you do it. I'm no expert, but I would liken a guess that Bynum would be a happier player in Cleveland where he can be a focal point of the team and not just the rebounder for Kobe. He also won't have the pressure that he does in LA. Everytime something goes wrong in that city, either he or Gasol would be blamed, that pressure would be alleviated (not cured, however). I just think the situation will be better for him, so that he will have every opportunity to be successful for the Cavs. Also, if we get to keep one of Zeller or Thompson, we have a backup C who can make sure that Bynum stays healthy all season while also giving teams a different look.
 
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