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This certainly sums it up. It just keeps getting better and better!
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This certainly sums it up. It just keeps getting better and better!
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Lebron's true helper on cutting his minutes down.
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Marion is going to cut down on LBJ's minutes, but he is also a great fit with LeBron on the floor. Marion will be our version of Shane Battier. LeBron likes playing as a PF for stretches offensively but has never liked banging away defensively under the hoop. What Battier was able to do in Miami was defend power forwards while stretching out the opposition with perimeter shooting/passing.
I'm booking my June flight to Cleveland early this year. I want to be in the Cle during the finals!
I'm booking my June flight to Cleveland early this year. I want to be in the Cle during the finals!
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We're one piece away from having as close to a perfect roster as team can have. We already have the talent to win it all.
I'm all aboard the "get a center" train, but look around the league. There is not a team with zero weaknesses, zero holes. Let's be greedy and get it all, but we already have(counting the Love deal as done) is the top 1 or 2 roster in the NBA
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This team is stacked with or without the addition of a defensive C. They can use a lot of lineups to create mismatches.
If they want to play small-ball like Miami, they can use the lineup of, Irving, Waiters, LeBron, Marion, Love. If they want to go big, they can play Irving, Miller, LeBron, Love, AV.
If they want to play small-ball like Miami, they can use the lineup of, Irving, Waiters, LeBron, Marion, Love. If they want to go big, they can play Irving, Miller, LeBron, Love, AV.
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Alright, my first (slightly early/unofficial) analysis of Marion:
Would he have been next Scottie Pippen if he had better coaching and a Michael Jordan-type with him on the Phoenix Suns? Hell would I know. He had to fill in for Amare as well.
Based on 2014, he had three things that were the most effective on a coherent team that allowed him to score 10 points and 5 or so rebounds a game:
1. Transition (everything)
2. Pass to cutter/cut and score (vice versa)
3. Shoot from three/fake and drive/plethora of odd shots (Antawn anyone)
Additionally, that capable defense he had is still solid, but age has clearly kicked in. But on a solid 49-win Maverick team that took the Spurs to 7 in the first round, he was between 4th and 7th best guy on the team with those skills alone, behind a selfish Ellis, a 7 foot threat in Dirk (similar to what he had in Amare), an innovator in Calderon (similar to Nash), and in the same range as Vince and Dalembert in importance. There's no question that beating the Spurs would have set off the same magnitude of positioning in the West that happened in 2006 and 2011.
So, based on that, there's a big question mark on Marion. How does he transition from 36 to 37? He is primarily a starter at SF these days, but has proven he can be a sixth man, like he was in 2011. With LeBron taking 36-40 at SF, Marion can provide a role Antawn tried to give in 2010. And I think Marion could do it, behind LBJ and Love, who plays 34-36. In that case, with Tristan and Andy still here, who may be asked to play center a little more than used to, he may get 24 minutes a game at most, even with injuries. It's the least amount throughout his 15 years. And it may work, since he capitalizes on most plays that require possession usage.
Things that would make him effective here:
1. Don't expect 10-5. He needs to play when LeBron sits and when we need defensive stops.
2. If there's half court play, I'd like Love or Andy out there with him for cuts and LeBron/Dion/Irving for passes.
3. We can use him in some Blatt plays, but I'd rather transition and fakes when it comes to dribbling.
Regardless, good signing.
Would he have been next Scottie Pippen if he had better coaching and a Michael Jordan-type with him on the Phoenix Suns? Hell would I know. He had to fill in for Amare as well.
Based on 2014, he had three things that were the most effective on a coherent team that allowed him to score 10 points and 5 or so rebounds a game:
1. Transition (everything)
2. Pass to cutter/cut and score (vice versa)
3. Shoot from three/fake and drive/plethora of odd shots (Antawn anyone)
Additionally, that capable defense he had is still solid, but age has clearly kicked in. But on a solid 49-win Maverick team that took the Spurs to 7 in the first round, he was between 4th and 7th best guy on the team with those skills alone, behind a selfish Ellis, a 7 foot threat in Dirk (similar to what he had in Amare), an innovator in Calderon (similar to Nash), and in the same range as Vince and Dalembert in importance. There's no question that beating the Spurs would have set off the same magnitude of positioning in the West that happened in 2006 and 2011.
So, based on that, there's a big question mark on Marion. How does he transition from 36 to 37? He is primarily a starter at SF these days, but has proven he can be a sixth man, like he was in 2011. With LeBron taking 36-40 at SF, Marion can provide a role Antawn tried to give in 2010. And I think Marion could do it, behind LBJ and Love, who plays 34-36. In that case, with Tristan and Andy still here, who may be asked to play center a little more than used to, he may get 24 minutes a game at most, even with injuries. It's the least amount throughout his 15 years. And it may work, since he capitalizes on most plays that require possession usage.
Things that would make him effective here:
1. Don't expect 10-5. He needs to play when LeBron sits and when we need defensive stops.
2. If there's half court play, I'd like Love or Andy out there with him for cuts and LeBron/Dion/Irving for passes.
3. We can use him in some Blatt plays, but I'd rather transition and fakes when it comes to dribbling.
Regardless, good signing.
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I think its helps lebron has been through this before and so has blatt. Lue to a certain point to. it will really help reduce the time it takes the team tog el. They will be working towards playing playoff level basketball from the get go
