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The Clippers were WORSE on offense AND defense with Crawford during the regular season.

ORTG with Crawford ON: 110.6
ORTG with Crawford OFF: 114.6

DRTG with Crawford ON: 108.2
DRTG with Crawford OFF: 103.5

DRTG in the playoffs:

DRTG with Crawford ON: 115.0
DRTG with Crawford OFF: 97.1

Clippers were almost 18 points per 100 possessions better on defense without Crawford. How Rivers gave him so many minutes is beyond everyone although they had really had nobody on the bench. Reddick should have simply played more minutes though.

In total, the Clippers were 8.8 points per 100 possessions worse with Crawford on court.

Crawford is good at one thing and that is spot up shooting (top 6% at 1.22 PPP) but he won't just take those shots but rather chuck up trash. 60% of all his shots were contested or highly contested.
 
Crawford for the vet min... why not... anything else stay far away.
 
AMC said:
You have to consider the role Crawford would play. He was basically a 3rd option with the Clippers.

In a reserve role here he wouldn't take the volume of shots like in LA. At 36 he's still a good playmaker and nowhere near the place Miller and Marion were in their careers this year.
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His role would be what JR's is. Which wouldn't make much sense acquiring him, given JR would be out the door. Since, there's no reason having both on the team.

If JR wanted an outrageous contract, that would be different, but he doesn't. So Crawford makes zero sense, when we can re-sign JR, and probably sign someone like Mo Williams at least.

Even if we don't do a thing with Haywood's contract, the last thing we want to do is use it, because we have it, and get ourselves into more trouble than we'd be in if we just waive him.

I still think there's a good chance we don't even use his contract at all.

It will suck if we don't, but won't be the end of the world either.

If we can at least get two solid free agent signings, along with everyone else coming back, which I can't see that not being the case at this point, this was still a good off-season.

Quiet obviously compared to last year, but it still served its purpose.
 
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His role would be what JR's is. Which wouldn't make much sense acquiring him, given JR would be out the door. Since, there's no reason having both on the team.

If JR wanted an outrageous contract, that would be different, but he doesn't. So Crawford makes zero sense, when we can re-sign JR, and probably sign someone like Mo Williams at least.

Even if we don't do a thing with Haywood's contract, the last thing we want to do is use it, because we have it, and get ourselves into more trouble than we'd be in if we just waive him.

I still think there's a good chance we don't even use his contract at all.

It will suck if we don't, but won't be the end of the word either.

If we can at least get two solid free agent signings, along with everyone else coming back, which I can't see that not being the case at this point, this was still a good off-season.

Quiet obviously compared to last year, but it still served its purpose.
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I only suggested the Crawfors/Redick option in a scenario that JR wouldn't be back. There aren't many options out there for the role we have open.
 
Rich said:
No one in the league will give him 8 million per year. The organizations goal shouldn't be to make every players dreams come true, but pay them just enough that they stay. They can keep JR and pay him less than that.
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So what you're saying is $8 million per season should be nothing more than a pipe dream for JR? :kekekegay:
 
priceFTW said:
The Clippers were WORSE on offense AND defense with Crawford during the regular season.

ORTG with Crawford ON: 110.6
ORTG with Crawford OFF: 114.6

DRTG with Crawford ON: 108.2
DRTG with Crawford OFF: 103.5

DRTG in the playoffs:

DRTG with Crawford ON: 115.0
DRTG with Crawford OFF: 97.1

Clippers were almost 18 points per 100 possessions better on defense without Crawford. How Rivers gave him so many minutes is beyond everyone although they had really had nobody on the bench. Reddick should have simply played more minutes though.

In total, the Clippers were 8.8 points per 100 possessions worse with Crawford on court.

Crawford is good at one thing and that is spot up shooting (top 6% at 1.22 PPP) but he won't just take those shots but rather chuck up trash. 60% of all his shots were contested or highly contested.
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The guy is horrific, can't believe this has to be argued. Honestly he might be a worse defender than Mike Miller that has to tell you something.
 
AMC said:
I only suggested the Crawfors/Redick option in a scenario that JR wouldn't be back. There aren't many options out there for the role we have open.
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I'd take Redick in a second. I rather have him than Crawford (obviously) and JR as well.

But, I doubt the Clippers trade him. Not sure why they would.
 
I would happily take Redick. Excellent shooter and has evolved into a good defender. He was Clippers' primary defender on Harden and did a fairly good job. But no way in hell is Doc letting him go. He and CP3 are one of the best back-courts in the league.
 
The Red Viper said:
I would happily take Redick. Excellent shooter and has evolved into a good defender. He was Clippers' primary defender on Harden and did a fairly good job. But no way in hell is Doc letting him go. He and CP3 are one of the best back-courts in the league.
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Redick would be incredible on this team. Think about floor spacing with LeBron at point forward and Irving, Redick, and Love on the floor together. Good God. That being said, no chance LAC trades Redick, especially for anything we could offer. Makes no sense at all.
 
Bob_The_Cat said:
Redick would be incredible on this team. Think about floor spacing with LeBron at point forward and Irving, Redick, and Love on the floor together. Good God. That being said, no chance LAC trades Redick, especially for anything we could offer. Makes no sense at all.
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Yeah. Any idea when he is a free agent?

Also, seems like a nice lad as well from the interviews and all. His podcast with Zach Lowe was ace.
 
Redick's shooting numbers might rival Korver's with the amount of open looks he'd get sharing the floor with LeBron, Kyrie and Love. My god, that spacing.

He'd be the perfect fit to share the 2 with Shump. But, yeah... almost no chance it happens.
 
If we keep JR, he should be starting when everyone is healthy. He is a lethal spot up shooter. Anything else he tries to do scares me. He makes our starting lineup unstoppable. Shump deserves more minutes but if you want to get away from iso offense, keep JR with the starters. Getting Mo Williams should be our top priority after re-signing everyone.
 
EdMonix11 said:
Oh please.

I could see the Cavs bring in someone that makes JR Smith expendable but it's not Jamal Crawford and it never will be. Crawford was NOT good this year-- he's on that same extinction path of Mike Miller and Shawn Marion, which we don't need. JR is worth the pay raise in comparison to Crawford, easily.
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Other problem is we can go over the min to pay JR, if we give Crawford the mini MLE, then we can say good bye to mo or anyone else bet a vet min.

Basically the only talent we can add outside of our own free agents has to come from the trade involving Haywood. We have proven its hard to get true depth via a vet min, the only one that helped last year was Jones, and he is the only vet min I want to bring back.
 
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