I'm not sure you can really classify Shumpert as a "3&D" guy, because he only does one of those two things well right now.What other 3&D players got paid:
DeMarre Carroll @ 4-years, 60 million with Toronto
Danny Green @ 4-years, 45 million with San Antonio
Khris Middleton @ 5-years, 70 million with Milwaukee
Paul Millsap @ 3-years, 59 million with Atlanta
I'm not sure you can really classify Shumpert as a "3&D" guy, because he only does one of those two things well right now.
I think it's a lot of money for Shumpert regardless, but it's not my money so it doesn't really matter.
I didn't say I wouldn't "take it", just don't think he really belongs in a category of 3&D with those other guys mentioned, who were all 40% three point shooters last year (aside from Millsap, who as mentioned earlier, is actually a guy who can be a key cog in an offense). If we're going to compare contracts, I think it would need to be with guys who are actually similar to him, defensive players with below average to average shooting capabilities.Huh? The cutoff for effective 3 point shooting is 33%. Shump shot 34% and that's also his career number. For someone who has the ability to to guard 3 positions, with room to grow, I'll take a guy that is at 34% all day long.
His deal is INCREDIBLY reasonable. He's 24, gives two of our three best players defensive rest (guarding PG's when Kyrie has a bad matchup or taking the better wing player so LBJ can freelance on defense).
An average of $10 mil per on an 80-100 million dollar cap is a steal for someone like Shump IMO. In 2016-17 ( a projected $90 million dollar cap), his $10 mil per is equal to $7.6 on a $69 million dollar cap. In 2017-2018 (a projected $108 million dollar cap), his $10 mil per is equal to $6.4 on a $69 million dollar cap.
Again, I keep typing this but think percentages here. Every year we move forward (especially the next 2), all these deals get incredibly affordable.
I didn't say I wouldn't "take it", just don't think he really belongs in a category of 3&D with those other guys mentioned, who were all 40% three point shooters last year (aside from Millsap, who as mentioned earlier, is actually a guy who can be a key cog in an offense). If we're going to compare contracts, I think it would need to be with guys who are actually similar to him, defensive players with below average to average shooting capabilities.
Or it could be the fact that his career FG% is below 40%.Everyone forgets that we haven't seen a fully healthy Shumpert yet. Dude never got into a rthymn with us until the playoffs and then played hurt. Groin injuries are the worst, could be one of the reasons he was finishing so bad.
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Why should we expect his shot selection and preferred play style change though? I guess if LeBron really gets in his face about it there's a chance, but he's been playing with this type of low efficiency his entire career, and even through college.Need to focus on advanced metrics though, not raw numbers. His shooting should get better with a more defined role and even so, he's already pretty good.
He's way above average on catch and shoot 3's, at 38.5%. That is top 50 in the league for guys who took at least 2.5 per game. His catch and shoot EFG is 56%, also top 50 for guys with a min of 2.5 attempts per. That is better than guys like Millsap and right in line with someone like Chandler Parsons.
With Shumpert, it is merely about shot selection. When he gets a shot, in rhythm, he's a good shooter. When he tries to freelance too much off the dribble, he is not. I'm sure that will be a point of emphasis after breaking down numbers and getting to work this off-season.
Why should we expect his shot selection and preferred play style change though? I guess if LeBron really gets in his face about it there's a chance, but he's been playing with this type of low efficiency his entire career, and even through college.
That’s great to hear.View: https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/616639211299545088
This is a huge part the story that is being unreported.