2012 Offseason: Quarterbacks

[Shakalu M.D.]

Jeff Garcia (Cleveland) Trent dilfer(Cleveland), steve McNair(Baltimore),chad pennington ( Miami), Brett farve (jets and Vikings) I'm sure Washington can be thrown into this mix over the last decade with how their qb play has been as well as Tampa bay and Oakland! Most of these teams who went with qbs whom have had sucsess in the nfl fell off the map directly after these qbs left town or fizzled out from age or skill! Baltimore is the best example of the they went from 13-3 to crap after McNair declined in skills! They didn't become contenders again until flacco! I'm sure there are many more examples but that's what I can think of off the top of my head! No doubt Peyton is better then all the guys mentioned ahead but he will diminish in skills very soon and it will all be for nothing!

You use way too many exclamation points, really diminishes their meaning.

 

[mofire]

Thank you guys are not running the browns. It's a mute point arguing this because no way manning ends up here and no way the browns pursue him end of story.

 

[UDcleveland]

Thank you guys are not running the browns. It's a mute point arguing this because no way manning ends up here and no way the browns pursue him end of story.

*Moot. But good use of periods instead of exclamation points.

 

[mofire]

Typing on my phone asshole and I must have accidentally misspelled it and spell check corrected it to mute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully that's not to many exclamation points for your liking.

 

[UDcleveland]

Typing on my phone asshole and I must have accidentally misspelled it and spell check corrected it to mute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully that's not to many exclamation points for your liking.

*too






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[UDcleveland]

Getting back on track though, there's plenty of ways we could go obviously, but here's what I'd like to see (each scenario in order of my preference):

Best case: Sign Manning, draft Blackmon at 4, draft RT at 22. Address DB and LB needs in rounds 2-7, and sign top tier free agent wide out. McCoy would back up Manning.

Scenario 2: Draft RGIII if and only if he is there at #4. I don't think it would be worth it to trade up for him, although I think some team will (Washington). Then take Jeffrey at 22, and again, hope to sign another wideout.

Scenario 3: Stick with McCoy for one more year, but go all out putting weapons around him.

Scenario 4: Same as scenario 3, but go all out for Matt Flynn (I'm not sold on him).

 

[bigjmac0815]

Getting back on track though, there's plenty of ways we could go obviously, but here's what I'd like to see (each scenario in order of my preference):

Best case: Sign Manning, draft Blackmon at 4, draft RT at 22. Address DB and LB needs in rounds 2-7, and sign top tier free agent wide out. McCoy would back up Manning.

Scenario 2: Draft RGIII if and only if he is there at #4. I don't think it would be worth it to trade up for him, although I think some team will (Washington). Then take Jeffrey at 22, and again, hope to sign another wideout.

Scenario 3: Stick with McCoy for one more year, but go all out putting weapons around him.

Scenario 4: Same as scenario 3, but go all out for Matt Flynn (I'm not sold on him).

Change that to Kendall Wright or Dwight Jones and i'll be fine.....Jeffery is out of shape and his stock is gonna keep falling unless he gets in shape and runs a quick 40 time at the combine

 

[Sly]

Kevin_Weidl Kevin Weidl
Extremely impressed with Osweiler's tape. A lot of tools to work with and a competitor. Stock could rise moving further into the process.
about 8 hours ago

McShay13 Todd McShay
@Kevin_Weidl momentum building for Osweiler as a late-first round grade after 3 tapes studied. Maybe 3rd QB after Luck, RGIII?
about 8 hours ago

Kevin_Weidl Kevin Weidl
Studying ASU QB Osweiler w/ @SteveMuenchESPN,@McShay13. Surprising agility for height + compact release and ability to vary launch point.

:spin:

 

[Sly]

Irsay plans to draft Luck or Griffin, even if Peyton is healthy

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 20, 2012, 7:00 AM EST

Colts owner Jim Irsay wants a new franchise quarterback, regardless of what happens with the old franchise quarterback.

In an interview with ESPN’s Hannah Storm, Irsay was asked if the Colts could pass up a new franchise quarterback, and he answered, “I don’t see that.”

Irsay said he knows from personal experience with Peyton Manning that if you have a chance to draft a great quarterback first overall you take it. And he sounded like a man who already knows he’s drafting a quarterback and needs to decide only whether that quarterback will be Stanford’s Andrew Luck or Baylor’s Robert Griffin III.

“With Griffin and Luck and the way it’s shaping up at the top of the draft — could very likely go one and two like with Peyton and Ryan Leaf,” Irsay said. “It’s most likely one of those quarterbacks that you really feel is the best player in the draft, and where we’re at moving forward you can’t pass that up. I don’t think anyone would expect that.”

And according to Irsay, the Colts want Luck or Griffin first overall regardless of whether Manning’s neck injury will prevent him from playing football in 2012. The Colts have said they’ll wait at least another month to continue to see how Manning’s neck injury progresses, but when asked if his feelings on drafting a quarterback would be different if Manning were healthy, Irsay said, “I don’t think it would.”

Irsay also touched on the controversy created by the actor Rob Lowe, who wrote on Twitter that Manning would retire. Irsay and Lowe are friendly, but Irsay says he has no idea where Lowe would get that idea.

“I don’t know what Rob was thinking,” Irsay said. “He’s a friend but we haven’t talked in probably a couple months.”

So if Lowe comes forward with a scoop about whether Luck or Griffin is going first overall, it didn’t come from Irsay.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ft-luck-or-griffin-even-if-peyton-is-healthy/

Gonna lmao if he takes RG3. Great television.

 

[bigjmac0815]

I think all browns fans would be shocked if the colts went with RG3

 

[Selby]

I think all browns fans would be shocked if the colts went with RG3

More like the entire football world would be shocked.

 

[Sly]

A little disturbed he mentions PManning/Leaf as opposed to EManning/Rivers.

 

[mofire]

A little disturbed he mentions PManning/Leaf as opposed to EManning/Rivers.

I don't think he meant to say that RG3 is the next Ryan Leaf but saying that his team is in the same situation as he was in 1998 when they had to make the decision between Manning and Leaf.

 

[Sly]

I understand his more direct involvement with his Manning than the other, but I would have been much more comfortable if Ryan Leaf didn't cross his mind.

 

[cdt]

Browns then tradeup with StL and snag Luck.......Cleveland riots in happiness and destroys the city.