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2015 Cleveland Browns Regular Season Thread

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but I don't think he's close to the biggest issue out there.
He is 1 and 1A with Ray Farmer.

Each have brought a level of ineptitude to their job the likes of which we haven't seen in the city in a while.

Both Pettine and Farmer are tremendously arrogant/stubborn for guys with tremendously thin resumes that never accomplished anything.

Pettine quite frankly until the past few weeks has gotten the biggest free pass in the history of Cleveland sports. It should be a scandal in this city he refuses to fire Jim O'Neil, but no one says a word.

As I saw elsewhere, if he didn't have a shaved head and goatee (people subliminally think he's tough) he would get hammered far more than he does. Guy is a poser and a fraud.

Neither he nor Farmer have any business making important decisions for an NFL franchise, and I pray to God that Haslam can admit he was wrong and move on rather than saddle us with another year of this gruesome twosome.
 
Pettine quite frankly until the past few weeks has gotten the biggest free pass in the history of Cleveland sports. It should be a scandal in this city he refuses to fire Jim O'Neil, but no one says a word.

This has actually been a hot issue for multiple weeks running in the pressers. It has been a scandal weekly.
 
Who are we going to get that is any better? Are we basically trolling for unknown coaching candidates until one works out?
 
Who are we going to get that is any better? Are we basically trolling for unknown coaching candidates until one works out?

I think the Browns could totally get Hue Jackson to leave Cincy. He won 8 games with the Raiders as head coach so he has some experience, he has turned Andy Dalton into a Pro Bowler (and the Bengals offense into one of the best/most balanced in the league), and he is from the division so he gets it.

There are guys out there.

Next time though absolutely no more first timers who have never before performed the task they are being hired to do.

We have done that too many freaking times and I think everyone is ready for some competence to reign in Berea.
 
@Birdy89 not a bad call for Hue. There are going to be guys out there. I'm interested to see what kind of tandems come together this off-season.

I also think guys like Bob Stoops and Nick Saban are people that teams will reach out to again.
 
I think the Browns could totally get Hue Jackson to leave Cincy. He won 8 games with the Raiders as head coach so he has some experience, he has turned Andy Dalton into a Pro Bowler (and the Bengals offense into one of the best/most balanced in the league), and he is from the division so he gets it.

There are guys out there.

Next time though absolutely no more first timers who have never before performed the task they are being hired to do.

We have done that too many freaking times and I think everyone is ready for some competence to reign in Berea.
Hue Jackson's Oakland team set records for number of penalties on both sides of the ball. Their defensive statistics ranked among the worst in franchise history, as well.
 
Hue Jackson's Oakland team set records for number of penalties on both sides of the ball. Their defensive statistics ranked among the worst in franchise history, as well.

There is no perfect candidate out there, but of guys we could realistically get he fits the profile as far as having some non-losing head coaching experience and success as a coordinator.

I don't want another coordinator who has to make every mistake while he gains experience. This fan base doesn't have the time or patience for another regime thinking they are getting time to put their 5 year plan in.
 
The vets would certainly understand playing the young guys at that point.
And they told you this personally?

When veterans have to bust their ass week in and week out in practice and in games, I'd like to reward them by playing the inferior, inexperienced Quarterback on a learning curve. In fact, let's play all of the rookies and anyone under the age of 26, just because.

That will win the locker room!
 
And they told you this personally?

When veterans have to bust their ass week in and week out in practice and in games, I'd like to reward them by playing the inferior, inexperienced Quarterback on a learning curve. In fact, let's play all of the rookies and anyone under the age of 26, just because.

That will win the locker room!

You tell the Vets it's largely their fault we're in this spot in the first place either because of poor play or a lack of leadership.

One of Pettine's biggest problems has been the constant coddling of everyone. He ran by all accounts a camp cupcake instead of training camp this season, and we are reaping the rewards right now.

I feel bad for Joe Thomas, but the rest of that locker room can eat a dick if they are upset about a potential youth movement.

They had their chance, and didn't do shit with it. Time to try something else.
 
And they told you this personally?

When veterans have to bust their ass week in and week out in practice and in games, I'd like to reward them by playing the inferior, inexperienced Quarterback on a learning curve. In fact, let's play all of the rookies and anyone under the age of 26, just because.

That will win the locker room!

No, they didn't tell me that personally. But you know that.

The vets are garbage anyways and most will be out of town soon. Who gives a crap at this point? Can't block, can't stop the run. Some vets.
 
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Doug Marrone. Although the way he left Buffalo was weird, he did a good job in his year there. I bet he will be a HC next year, Browns or not.
 

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