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2015 Cleveland Browns Training Camp Thread

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100% he makes the team.

If his dumbass came in here sluggish, couldn't catch a ball to save his life, then no way. But he's showing he can actually catch, had a wrap around TD pass in camp today (yes, just camp, but at least they want to see if he still can throw 15yds) and isn't causing problems. Will he need to make his route running better? For sure, but he has the agility and step to do it. Shit, he will probably end up being our #4 guy at the end of it all.
 
From that Scott Petrak article I hyperlinked yesterday:

First, he must get off the line of scrimmage against press man coverage.

“He is a big man and he’s a long-strider and long strides don’t help you get off press coverage,” Phillips said. “Fast feet help you get off and strong hands, which he has, and being physical, which I think he is versus the press. So we’re just trying to get him to use his size and his quicks.

“And the first release that we had, I wasn’t really sure if he understood how to turn his feet over and his hands and it was like he had done it forever. And the next one, it was like he hadn’t ever done it. So he’s just got to learn to be consistent at doing all the techniques.”

If he can get open, then he has to make the catch. That hasn’t been a problem, as he’s gone four days without a noteworthy drop.

“He’s handled the ball, obviously, and I think he has really, really good ball skills, has really strong hands,” Phillips said. “He’s able to pluck the ball. He’s not a body catcher.

“His hand placement is correct the majority of the time. I don’t have to coach that.”

When Joshua Cribbs tried to make the move from Kent State quarterback to Browns receiver, then-receivers coach Terry Robiskie said non-wideouts don’t understand just how much running receivers do. Their lives are running long sprints, then running some more.

“Yeah, but he’s overcome that,” Phillips said of Pryor. “It takes a couple of days.

“For a quarterback, probably 5 yards is the most you’re going to sprint and that’s going backwards, and at receiver we’re always on the move. I guarantee the GPS’s they put on those guys are exploding right now and he understands it.”

As Pryor makes a run at a roster spot, he’s added another new responsibility: special teams. Reserve receivers are required to block and tackle on kicks.

“He knows that. The guy’s a smart guy,” Phillips said. “He’s got to be able to help you on special teams. For you to get a 6-5 guy that can run like him, has shown he will be physical, he’s got to play special teams.”

Throw in learning to block, and Pryor’s got plenty on his plate.


“A million little things makes you a lot better football team and Terrelle’s got a million little things that he’s got to get better on,” Phillips said. “But we have time. He’s getting a lot of reps technique-wise out here and sometimes it’s frustrating for him because he’s not getting a lot of reps in 11-on-11, but the technique thing is what I’m evaluating him on right now.
 
If Jimmy blows the team up this year and starts another cycle of new HC/GM/Offensive/Defensive schemes he better have a big name in his pocket to take over or else it'll be all over.

I don't think you need three days of camp to temper your expectations for this team.

I also don't think you need to look that hard to see a potential blow up if this team does underperform as compared to last year, given Haslam's reputation for such a move in his short time here.
 
Pryor's making the team. No doubt in my mind. Too much potential for a game -changer play-maker in him as a WR/TE hybrid for him not to make it w/ a team desperately in need of both.

Now if they think he needs a year to clean up his route running and body technique he may get a hammy "injury" and be put on the IR for the year.

From that Scott Petrak article I hyperlinked yesterday:

First, he must get off the line of scrimmage against press man coverage.

“He is a big man and he’s a long-strider and long strides don’t help you get off press coverage,” Phillips said. “Fast feet help you get off and strong hands, which he has, and being physical, which I think he is versus the press. So we’re just trying to get him to use his size and his quicks.

“And the first release that we had, I wasn’t really sure if he understood how to turn his feet over and his hands and it was like he had done it forever. And the next one, it was like he hadn’t ever done it. So he’s just got to learn to be consistent at doing all the techniques.”

If he can get open, then he has to make the catch. That hasn’t been a problem, as he’s gone four days without a noteworthy drop.

“He’s handled the ball, obviously, and I think he has really, really good ball skills, has really strong hands,” Phillips said. “He’s able to pluck the ball. He’s not a body catcher.

“His hand placement is correct the majority of the time. I don’t have to coach that.”

When Joshua Cribbs tried to make the move from Kent State quarterback to Browns receiver, then-receivers coach Terry Robiskie said non-wideouts don’t understand just how much running receivers do. Their lives are running long sprints, then running some more.

“Yeah, but he’s overcome that,” Phillips said of Pryor. “It takes a couple of days.

“For a quarterback, probably 5 yards is the most you’re going to sprint and that’s going backwards, and at receiver we’re always on the move. I guarantee the GPS’s they put on those guys are exploding right now and he understands it.”

As Pryor makes a run at a roster spot, he’s added another new responsibility: special teams. Reserve receivers are required to block and tackle on kicks.

“He knows that. The guy’s a smart guy,” Phillips said. “He’s got to be able to help you on special teams. For you to get a 6-5 guy that can run like him, has shown he will be physical, he’s got to play special teams.”

Throw in learning to block, and Pryor’s got plenty on his plate.


“A million little things makes you a lot better football team and Terrelle’s got a million little things that he’s got to get better on,” Phillips said. “But we have time. He’s getting a lot of reps technique-wise out here and sometimes it’s frustrating for him because he’s not getting a lot of reps in 11-on-11, but the technique thing is what I’m evaluating him on right now.
 
Have to say, I do like the brighter orange on the helmets/logos. The old orange looked a bit faded. It is a bit Bengaly now, but it pops.
 
I greatly respect the attempt to reverse the negative culture among Cleveland's most annoying sports fans. (Not a shot @Chris btw :chuckle:)

This draft looks to be a step in the right direction, after last year's debacle which turned out to be the antithesis of the culture they're trying to create.

But it's going to take more than that. Much much more.

My legitimate bad if I mistook that post. lol. You all used to rag on me for being negative but that was like..4 years ago.
 
Important stuff of the day:

1. Malcolm Johnson hurt his shoulder, results haven't been released and he didn't go back on the field.

2. Pryor chased all his good press by feeling a "tweak" in his hamstring, he had it wrapped in ice on the sideline. It's not thought to be serious.

3. Billy Winn's ankle is not thought to be serious. He might be out from 1 to 5 weeks, according to the coaching staff.
 
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Read that Johnson injured his shoulder, not his ankle.
 
Read that Johnson injured his shoulder, not his ankle.

Fixed, I had the Winn news on my mind.

Shoulders are kind of important for fullbacks, opening holes is job number one, and brittle players wont last... not good news, but too early to tell. I guess E.J. Bibbs gets a chance to prove something to the coaches.
 
I think the question with Pryor was whether the ego would buy in, and so far it sounds like it has. Just take it a week at a time and see if he keeps up the hard work. Any major expectations fans have though they are pulling out their ass.
 
Side note: Zac Jackson blocked me on twitter for calling him out for saying the Browns were writing off Manziel by signing Thaddeus Lewis lol. What a panzy.
 
Once the Browns hired Roper as Senior Offensive Assistant, I was actually hoping for Lewis to become the third QB. He knows Roper's system, which seemed to put up big numbers at the college level no matter how little talent he had to work with. Manziel would be wise to pick his brain. Lewis has up and down games as a pro, but he can manage a game if the other guys are hurt. Depending on how things go with Manziel, Lewis might be valuable next year for the next rookie QB as well.
 
Fixed, I had the Winn news on my mind.

Shoulders are kind of important for fullbacks, opening holes is job number one, and brittle players wont last... not good news, but too early to tell. I guess E.J. Bibbs gets a chance to prove something to the coaches.


Has there been any mention of Lundy converting to fullback? Everytime i see him - that is the first thought that comes to mind. He could fill that "hybrid fullback" they are looking for, if he has decent hands and can block competently.
 

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