2016 Browns Mock Draft Thread

[Phills14]

I mean if you can get Manning and Gase that would be pretty solid. I really wanted Gase 2 years ago. He's proved he can do good things in multiple spots and he isn't just a product of Peyton Manning's greatness.

Keeping Flip is a good idea. I think he can develop into a good OC. He's gotten the QBs to actually play at an average level which no OC has done with the Browns since Derek Anderson. The problem is this type of scenario rarely happens. The coordinators typically are let go along with the coach. Not saying it's impossible but it's unlikely.

I'm not sure a guy like Dennis Allen is the best fit at DC if Gase is at the helm. I think you would need an experienced DC to be the czar of the defense.

As far as taking Joey Bosa. I mean I'm not sold on taking a DE as the number 1 pick, especially when I don't believe in Manziel at all. Everytime I think of Bosa I think of JJ Watt and his impact on Houston's W&Ls. I'm not especially keen on taking a 4-3 DE and that being the driving force to revamp the defense.

The problem with the Browns is not only do we change coaches, we change GMs and general football philosophy every 2 years. We flip the roster because the players from the past regime don't fit with the 'new' schemes. The 3-4 is a proven defense. We have pieces that fit those philosophies. Stick with it and change out a few guys a year not 50% which would be needed to go to a 4-3 base.

 

[Soda]

Great. If we get the Manning/Gase duo, I have to take back the shit I said about Gase being a prima-donna for turning HC opportunities down.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I feel like every mention of Peyton Manning as GM really shows "I don't know much about NFL front offices, so I'm going to drop a name with a lot of sizzle."

I don't know if Manning wants to run an organization in which he has no connection, and I don't know if he would be able to fill all the expectations. He would need a strong Director of Player Personnel helping him.

 

[Phills14]

The Manning thing is an easy one given a few factors...

1. His career is done. I'd be shocked if he plays another year
2. His mental capacity and legendary dedication to his craft are ideal traits for a competent NFL GM
3. His connection with Jimmy Haslam
4. The Browns being a complete mess again

Whether he will be good is anyone's guess but it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could succeed; more so than most former player turned exec candidates.

 

[AZ_]

The Manning thing is an easy one given a few factors...

1. His career is done. I'd be shocked if he plays another year
2. His mental capacity and legendary dedication to his craft are ideal traits for a competent NFL GM
3. His connection with Jimmy Haslam
4. The Browns being a complete mess again

Whether he will be good is anyone's guess but it's not out of the realm of possibility that he could succeed; more so than most former player turned exec candidates.

If Manning is any good at judging talent, character and mental capacity...he's likely not signing on with Jimmy Haslam.

Regardless of whether or not they're connected through UT.

 

[WellYouNeednt]

I have to agree with Keys and Boobie, regarding the whole Peyton situation.

I think there are a lot of people overvaluing his friendship with Haslam.

 

[MoFlo]

Every indication points to the Browns as a possible landing spot for Peyton, with reputable reporters mentioning it as a legit possibility.

It's not like fans are coming out of thin air with it.

 

[Rondo]

Every indication points to the Browns as a possible landing spot for Peyton, with reputable reporters mentioning it as a legit possibility.

It's not like fans are coming out of thin air with it.

why would we want a washed up noodle armed payton.

 

[godfather]

I have to agree with Keys and Boobie, regarding the whole Peyton situation.

I think there are a lot of people overvaluing his friendship with Haslam.

Well how do we know? We don't know how close they are, or not. We know there is a relationship.

If Peyton were to come here.

1.) I think his relationship with Haslam has to be that strong. If his relationship is good enough with Haslam, where he can talk to Haslam like others can't, that could easily factor into his decision.

There's at least a relationship there, so there's at least familiarity there. It's not like Peyton would be coming to a situation where he has no connection with anyone.

2.) The obvious, if he'd want to do this. This to me is probably the most likely scenario where he doesn't do it. Because I'm not sure he would want to do this, at least yet... And this has nothing to do with the Browns or his relationship with anyone.

I think Peyton is not going to play next year. But I think that's more out of default, than out of his desires.

I am not sure a team would want him right now. I know that's crazy to say about Peyton Manning, but boy does he look done.

My take is he takes a year off, and tries to make another comeback. Heal up.

I don't think he thinks he's done with football, even if that's inevitable. Maybe that changes, I don't know.

I don't think Peyton will be our president/GM next year. But I wouldn't suggest it's completely far-fetch, just not likely.

 

[godfather]

why would we want a washed up noodle armed payton.

We are talking about president/GM, not as a QB. Peyton is done as a QB, everyone understands that.

 

[Rondo]

We are talking about president/GM, not as a QB. Peyton is done as a QB, everyone understands that.

ah ok. Yea anything is better than Farmer at this point. Hope this is a true story then.

 

[Binkster]

If Manning is any good at judging talent, character and mental capacity...he's likely not signing on with Jimmy Haslam.

Regardless of whether or not they're connected through UT.

I think I have to disagree. Assuming he makes the leap (right away) into a front office personnel role, where else would he go? The good teams don't have openings. Also, one would assume that Irsay burned his bridge in Indy. It's a known fact that Manning and Haslam are buddies and it presents an entirely new challenge for Peyton to construct a team from the ground up.

Not to mention we may have the #1 pick providing some added incentive.

 

[godfather]

I don't think it's going to happen. We've not heard/read any indication he would want to do that. Running an organization is tough, and a lot of work.

Just because he loves playing football, doesn't mean he wants that headache of running an entire football operation. Especially given he's never done that at all. I don't care how smart of a QB he is, this is a lot different.

Maybe he'd want to spend time with his family, or doesn't want to live in Cleveland.

There are a lot of factors into something like, outside the fact he plays football and has a relationship with the owner.

I wouldn't be surprise if Haslam has him in mind though.

 

[godfather]

I think I have to disagree. Assuming he makes the leap (right away) into a front office personnel role, where else would he go? The good teams don't have openings. Also, one would assume that Irsay burned his bridge in Indy. It's a known fact that Manning and Haslam are buddies and it presents an entirely new challenge for Peyton to construct a team in his vision.

Not to mention we may have the #1 pick providing some added incentive.

He will never work for Irsay, and Irsay would never hire him. Irsay wants to win in spite of Manning and be his own guy.

I agree, if Peyton were interested in something like this, why not Cleveland?

He'd have FULL control, it's not like he'd be working for anyone directly. Haslam and him probably have a relationship/trust where he'd stay out of Peyton's way.

The problem with coming here, is the front office and personnel is a mess. Peyton would have control of all of that.

I just don't know if he'd want to do it, but I don't know the guy and what he wants to do. That's just my guess. I think he still wants to play football. His comments at the start of the year sure sounded like he doesn't plan on hanging it up anytime soon. And his health was already in question then.

But I'm not sure the Broncos, or any other team will come calling for him. Maybe Peyton will realize it is over for him, even if that's not his desire.

 

[Phills14]

I think I have to disagree. Assuming he makes the leap (right away) into a front office personnel role, where else would he go? The good teams don't have openings. Also, one would assume that Irsay burned his bridge in Indy. It's a known fact that Manning and Haslam are buddies and it presents an entirely new challenge for Peyton to construct a team from the ground up.

Not to mention we may have the #1 pick providing some added incentive.

I agree, as long as Irsay is there I can't see Manning working for the Colts.

I can see him taking on the same role with the Titans. I wouldn't say that front office is on stable ground.

The Saints are another option as there may be a total wipe out of that organization this year. Keep in mind he's from New Orleans.