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I guess we'll never know, given the fact that, in KM/HB's 2 years in the NCAA's, they never beat any team that was better than a 7 seed...
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I guess we'll never know, given the fact that, in KM/HB's 2 years in the NCAA's, they never beat any team that was better than a 7 seed...
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I guess I'll end this here.
Best of luck on a productive draft.
Best of luck on a productive draft.
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See, you can make a post without bashing Barnes! It is possible!
Now crawl back into your hole.
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Roy Williams sincerely apologizes for how the bracket shook out.
And we've gone long past the point where anyone gives a fuck.
Moral of the story, quit hating.
Barnes can ball. I'm done worrying about why his rebounding numbers are down when playing next to three frontcourt lottery picks.
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And your rationalization for his low shooting percentage would be??
How about his points per shot attempt dropping precipitously with 2+ dribbles? Are all those lotto picks blocking his shot, too?
ugh. Knew I shouldn't have checked back on this thread.
How about his points per shot attempt dropping precipitously with 2+ dribbles? Are all those lotto picks blocking his shot, too?
ugh. Knew I shouldn't have checked back on this thread.
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44% is a really low shooting %? same as beals, higher than rivers, equal to quincy miller... not that low if you ask me. besides, couldnt a low field goal % result from playing in a system that is not a good fit for him?
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FG% is one of the most overrated stats in basketball anyways.
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People say "I trust the FO with whatever they do!" but no one wants Barnes. Well you're not the one getting payed thousands to scout. Maybe he would be great next to Kyrie and not Kendall Marshall because of how Kyrie plays. Kyrie and Barnes are friends and I PROMISE Kyrie will have a say in this. LeBron didn't draft players, but to help Kyrie, he will draft... It is Kyrie's team right??
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Umm, yes and no?
I doubt Kyrie will have a say in our draft picks. Isn't that the type of thing this organization wants to get away from?
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So glad I wasnt here for that Dook drive-by.
Back to basketball talk
Back to basketball talk
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But what about the situation with you-know-who. He didn't get anyone he thought had potential. Kyrie is smart enough to pick player over buddy.
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Washington Post article on Barnes.
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Harrison Barnes can’t control the expectations
Harrison Barnes is the rare draft prospect who has lower expectations entering the NBA than he had entering college. Barnes was one of the most hyped players to ever set foot on a college campus — he was the first freshman to ever be named a preseason All-American before playing a game. Based on the expectations for Barnes, he fell well short. But based on what he actually did in two seasons at North Carolina, Barnes really wasn’t all that bad: He still left Chapel Hill as one of just six North Carolina players to ever average at least 15 points in each of his first two seasons.
Whether or not Barnes, a 6-foot-8 swingman, showed enough of the intangibles to warrant being selected third in the NBA draft is up to Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld and his scouting department to determine. Barnes, though, has already proven adept at playing under pressure to perform for some time.
“Coming out of high school, there was a lot of hype, a lot of criticism, all that kind of stuff,” Barnes said. “I’ve been in the spotlight. So that’s something that’s just become second nature. I’m used to being in it. I don’t try to overthink it. You just be yourself and hopefully, it’s accepted.”
Barnes didn’t lead the Tar Heels to a national championship, or consistently dominate the opposition in big games, but was reliable, relatively consistent and found a way to play his role on a team with four players expected to go in the first round on June 28.
“Harrison was in a lose, lose situation,” said Kendall Marshall, Barnes’s teammate the past two seasons at North Carolina. “They put him on such a pedestal, it’s pretty hard to live up to. But I think he had a tremendous two years and he’s going to go on and have a great career.” Once considered a favorite to go No. 1 overall in the 2011 NBA draft, Barnes slipped after an uneven freshman season, then opened himself up to more criticism when he returned for his sophomore season.
Barnes had a tendency to drift, but he was steadily moving at his own pace, even when others demanded him to be more assertive. He spent enough time in school to have questions raised about his athleticism, ability to penetrate and to use his first step to get by defenders.
“Obviously, criticism will be there, whether you’re playing well or not. You just have to learn to play with it and just be as professional as possible,” Barnes said. “I have no control over that. Whatever the expectations are, it’s not going to make me change my game or how hard I work. The biggest thing is establishing a good work ethic and changing the culture in terms of how hard you work, putting in time in the gym. That’ll earn the respect of your teammates and let them listen to you more.”
At 20, Barnes is perhaps more polished and prepared to contribute than Bradley Beal or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. He already has an NBA body and his game is probably more suitable for the pro game.
“I think it’s daylight and darkness difference,” Barnes said, when asked about what aspects of his game that he had to contain in college. “At Carolina, I was surrounded by great players and we felt like we were one of the more talented teams in the country, so my job was pretty specific. I was there to score. In the NBA, it’s different. You kind of have to change your game a little bit and play NBA basketball.
“Immediately going into an NBA system, I’ll have to immediately work on ball-handling and creating for others and I think they’ll go hand in hand, being able to create shots for other people will not only make them better, but it will make you better,” he said. “Only time will tell.”
The Wizards haven’t scheduled a workout with Barnes yet, but he met with them in Chicago and said he expects to come to Washington at some point. If the Wizards pass on him, Barnes is expected to land in Cleveland, where he would be paired with his good friend, Kyrie Irving. Barnes deflected rumors that the Cavaliers desperately wanted him.
“It’s all poker faces around here, like, ‘Hey, how ya doing?’ ” Barnes said. “You can’t tell who’s interested and who’s not. The only thing you can do is try to leave the best impression possible.”
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Harrison Barnes can’t control the expectations
Harrison Barnes is the rare draft prospect who has lower expectations entering the NBA than he had entering college. Barnes was one of the most hyped players to ever set foot on a college campus — he was the first freshman to ever be named a preseason All-American before playing a game. Based on the expectations for Barnes, he fell well short. But based on what he actually did in two seasons at North Carolina, Barnes really wasn’t all that bad: He still left Chapel Hill as one of just six North Carolina players to ever average at least 15 points in each of his first two seasons.
Whether or not Barnes, a 6-foot-8 swingman, showed enough of the intangibles to warrant being selected third in the NBA draft is up to Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld and his scouting department to determine. Barnes, though, has already proven adept at playing under pressure to perform for some time.
“Coming out of high school, there was a lot of hype, a lot of criticism, all that kind of stuff,” Barnes said. “I’ve been in the spotlight. So that’s something that’s just become second nature. I’m used to being in it. I don’t try to overthink it. You just be yourself and hopefully, it’s accepted.”
Barnes didn’t lead the Tar Heels to a national championship, or consistently dominate the opposition in big games, but was reliable, relatively consistent and found a way to play his role on a team with four players expected to go in the first round on June 28.
“Harrison was in a lose, lose situation,” said Kendall Marshall, Barnes’s teammate the past two seasons at North Carolina. “They put him on such a pedestal, it’s pretty hard to live up to. But I think he had a tremendous two years and he’s going to go on and have a great career.” Once considered a favorite to go No. 1 overall in the 2011 NBA draft, Barnes slipped after an uneven freshman season, then opened himself up to more criticism when he returned for his sophomore season.
Barnes had a tendency to drift, but he was steadily moving at his own pace, even when others demanded him to be more assertive. He spent enough time in school to have questions raised about his athleticism, ability to penetrate and to use his first step to get by defenders.
“Obviously, criticism will be there, whether you’re playing well or not. You just have to learn to play with it and just be as professional as possible,” Barnes said. “I have no control over that. Whatever the expectations are, it’s not going to make me change my game or how hard I work. The biggest thing is establishing a good work ethic and changing the culture in terms of how hard you work, putting in time in the gym. That’ll earn the respect of your teammates and let them listen to you more.”
At 20, Barnes is perhaps more polished and prepared to contribute than Bradley Beal or Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. He already has an NBA body and his game is probably more suitable for the pro game.
“I think it’s daylight and darkness difference,” Barnes said, when asked about what aspects of his game that he had to contain in college. “At Carolina, I was surrounded by great players and we felt like we were one of the more talented teams in the country, so my job was pretty specific. I was there to score. In the NBA, it’s different. You kind of have to change your game a little bit and play NBA basketball.
“Immediately going into an NBA system, I’ll have to immediately work on ball-handling and creating for others and I think they’ll go hand in hand, being able to create shots for other people will not only make them better, but it will make you better,” he said. “Only time will tell.”
The Wizards haven’t scheduled a workout with Barnes yet, but he met with them in Chicago and said he expects to come to Washington at some point. If the Wizards pass on him, Barnes is expected to land in Cleveland, where he would be paired with his good friend, Kyrie Irving. Barnes deflected rumors that the Cavaliers desperately wanted him.
“It’s all poker faces around here, like, ‘Hey, how ya doing?’ ” Barnes said. “You can’t tell who’s interested and who’s not. The only thing you can do is try to leave the best impression possible.”