Re: Cavs make qualifying offer to Alonzo Gee (now RFA)
You don't get what you earn you get what you ultimately negotiate.
Unless you play in the NFL :chuckles:
I think the commentor simply meant that his play was worth more than 2 million. I tend to agree.
From an attorney who negotiates' perspective I really have no problem with this (unlike Peyton Hillis' ordeal for which he should've fired his Agent). For those guys that are not Lebron James's you have a short window to get as much $ as you can. You hire someone to do that. In this case they are simply bootstrapped by the fact that the CAVS will probably match if they put in any effort. I have no problem with him "testing" the market, as hey, its his right. If someone wants to grossly overpay him, well Alonzo congrats. But doesn't seem like that's happening. More likely he is getting whatever number the cavs have as their highest number being brought home. Which will accelerate his signing with the CAVS.
And it should be realized it does not do very much good for an agent not to sign a guy. Their client looks bad. They look bad. Same as if they promise the moon. For example you get a real estate agent telling you I can sell this house for 400,000 and you know it's worth 250,000, and another saying I can sell it for 275,000 you actually should go with the second guy, cuz it will actually happen. I am sure his agent would rather sign 20 alonzo gees to reasonable contracts than have 2 guys and look like a fool. Not good business to act like your guy is Scottie Pippen or well IDK. None of us do. So none of us should be blaming anyone. It is what it is. And when the dust settles the guy will probably be a Cav.
I said in another thread your are ALWAYS in one of four phases of negotiation:
Each side
1. What do you want?
Cavs- probably other posters could say better (obviously not their tender QO that is just an entrance $)
Gee- probably other posters could say better
2. What do they want?
(disclose what you want but not on the terms you might settle (start higher so you have wiggle room)
CAVS- I am sure have gotten what he wants
GEE- Sure has gotten what CAVS want
I have seen nothing saying these are far off, or nothing indicating Gee's frustration with the FO. They are both negotiating. 1 to get his pay day and worth. 2. To get a deal done as close to their goals as possible (limited)
3. What could you trade?
(Use if then language)
CAVS- I am sure are now throwing out hypotheticals
GEE- Same
As in ok we said x for 3 years what about y for 4 (and you begin to get closer and see what are sticking points I am sure they are obvious (GEE) guaranteed money commensurate with the possibility its his last chance to put his kids through college (CAVS) a set amount of years/lower guaranteed I would guess.
4. What will you trade?
Will the Cavs give up some of their flexibility to sign the guy? Probably. Will Gee ultimately realize his value and trade down on his number for a guarantee he is happy with and years he is? Probably.
I suppose to a certain extent in the last two stages is what would be so rediculous to GEE that he signs for 1 yr? If he gets no offers and is completely low-balled? I don't see the CAVS doing that. But that I guess is part of his prioritizing as in I am sure he doesn't want to trade top priority 1. signing a contract THIS year for long-term guaranteed $- a player in his position cannot realistically have expectations way beyond what an org fairly would pay that would change 1 to 1a sign for 1 year try again next. As in I don't know what Gee would possibly value that he would not come close to go so that he leaves in a year. I would think 3 years for 5 or something may be highish in between. If he gets slightly lower I would think it bad negotiating to say we'll take 2 million for 1 year and try again next year. One in the hand is always worth more than 2 in the bush. A lot can happen in 1 year.
Again, they are always in one of these four stages. Now imagine you are a team that knows you could do this and sign a reasonable contract. But the CAVS just match it. You probably won't. So the only way I see him not being a Cav is someone suddenly puts way too much money into him (in which case nice job fleecing them Gee), or he completely overvalues himself. If it were me, and I was his agent I would not at all want to risk him signing for 1 year to become a UFA. I am seeing the market now. And I want to get as much from the CAVS as I can.
Hope that helps. And feel free to use the basic steps. If you ever go to any negotiation lecture they will tell you that is what any negotiation is going on (sometimes more than one step).
