Anthony Davis

[Ethan]

Im generally more of a fan of the players than individual teams or locations.
So to be honest..it would be pretty cool to see Bron and Ky teamup to beat GS again.

@gourimoko Durant wants to beat Lebron. He wont join him. Also, Kemba is no Kyrie.
Kyrie is a GS killer. NOP will be forced to trade to the Lakers because Davis wont resign anywhere else.
Also LeBron hates midget point guards.

 

[Stark]

Saw this on Twitter

 

[Kyrie4MVP0202]

My argument has nothing to do with LA. My only argument is that Golden State isn't a small market team, and therefore they shouldn't be seen as a "small market success story". The Cavs are a small market team. The Bucks are another one. Small market teams don't play in Silicon Valley.

Golden State was right there with Cleveland as far as markets were concerned back in 2003.

I guess I’m not sure what you’re saying. You’re saying they are a big market team? Why are the Raiders moving to Las Vegas?

Big market teams don’t move NFL franchises... the fuck?

Even the Browns had one of the best fan bases imaginable and were moved due to it being small market...

What does this have to do with LeBron, Kyrie, and AD teaming up in LA? Very little.

Just seems you’re trying to deflect the fact that Golden State is the best team in the league but that LA Lakers still rank above Golden State in marketability and revenue which is the entire point of these guys doing what they did at the time they did it.

Has nothing to do with the discussion so let’s move on.

 

[GreasySpread36]

Golden State was right there with Cleveland as far as markets were concerned back in 2003.

I guess I’m not sure what you’re saying. You’re saying they are a big market team? Why are the Raiders moving to Las Vegas?

Big market teams don’t move NFL franchises... the fuck?

Even the Browns had one of the best fan bases imaginable and were moved due to it being small market...

What does this have to do with LeBron, Kyrie, and AD teaming up in LA? Very little.

Just seems you’re trying to deflect the fact that Golden State is the best team in the league but that LA Lakers still rank above Golden State in marketability and revenue which is the entire point of these guys doing what they did at the time they did it.

FWIW the Browns and Raiders moved primarily because of stadium issues, not market size. The Oilers left Houston for the same reason. As for big markets not moving NFL teams how do you explain Los Angeles losing two NFL teams in the same year?

The Warriors have the entire San Francisco Bay area to themselves. If the Bay Area isn't a big market I'm not sure what is.

 

[Randolphkeys]

In 2003 they were worth 176,000,000 and now they are worth 3.1 billion.

Their hometown NFL team is moving to Las Vegas.

Yes. They are a small market team who’s value skyrocketed because of their own drafting.

A pinnacle of how a professional sports team should be ran.

An accomplishment of the NBA that should be heralded beyond our love hate of our favorite teams.

Only below the Knicks and... wait for it...

Lakers.

You don't know what "small market" means and you have now supplied RCF with plenty of evidence that when you clearly do not understand something, you are equally inflexible to growth past your own opinion and limited understanding of a concept.

In short you should rethink your approach to discussions. It isn't working for you, it's working against you.

 

[Kyrie4MVP0202]

FWIW the Browns and Raiders moved primarily because of stadium issues, not market size. The Oilers left Houston for the same reason. As for big markets not moving NFL teams how do you explain Los Angeles losing two NFL teams in the same year?

The Warriors have the entire San Francisco Bay area to themselves. If the Bay Area isn't a big market I'm not sure what is.

It doesn’t matter. LA is the Hollywood hub of America and it’s not even close.

LA is a divided sports sector but Magic and Kareem brought most of LA together. Hence why you see more movies stars at Lakers games than Clippers games.

It’s just stupid to deflect the conversation elsewhere. LA is where people go to be famous...

It’s 80% of the entertainment industry.

 

[Kyrie4MVP0202]

You don't know what "small market" means and you have now supplied RCF with plenty of evidence that when you clearly do not understand something, you are equally inflexible to growth past your own opinion and limited understanding of a concept.

In short you should rethink your approach to discussions. It isn't working for you, it's working against you.

If Kyrie, LeBron, and AD end up on the same team it will be because there was obvious collusion between the three. Everyone will see that. Maybe they won’t and they’ll root for the Lakers anyway.

If they don’t its because of pushback from the teams from which they need to accomplish such a trade.

If this does happen, and I believe it will... then maybe my opinion holds more weight. Maybe it doesn’t.

From a business perspective and not that of a fan, I feel the ball is in LeBrons court only. It’s up to the league to suffer the consequences of not playing in his court. It has great consequences but ultimately the league has the power and finances.

We will see what happens but the obvious is obvious from a business and not a fan perspective. If these 3 end up together then we know what happened. I’m a Clevelander and I want to see the Cavs have a fair shot instead of a league whoms players seek fame elsewhere. It should be balanced. To see Cleveland and Gilbert used as cogs offends me as a basketball fan.


Maybe this is just where the league is at and I should ignore the emotions of young child that rooted for the best to win in a balanced way. Maybe those days are gone and WWE tactics are here.

I sure hope not. Lot of players and fans who would be heartbroken to see that.

 

[BrutX15]

Kinda hope he ends up in LA. He is hurt constantly. They aren't winning this year regardless, so they will have a 35 year old LeBron and an injury prone AD. Have at it Magic.

 

[MediumBaller]

Golden State was right there with Cleveland as far as markets were concerned back in 2003.

I guess I’m not sure what you’re saying. You’re saying they are a big market team? Why are the Raiders moving to Las Vegas?

Big market teams don’t move NFL franchises... the fuck?

Even the Browns had one of the best fan bases imaginable and were moved due to it being small market...

What does this have to do with LeBron, Kyrie, and AD teaming up in LA? Very little.

Just seems you’re trying to deflect the fact that Golden State is the best team in the league but that LA Lakers still rank above Golden State in marketability and revenue which is the entire point of these guys doing what they did at the time they did it.

Has nothing to do with the discussion so let’s move on.

You said:
"Can’t blame Golden State for drafting the greatest team ever and then adding Durant the proper way.

All teams should strive for that. A small market team making it big time by making good decisions.

You end that... you end the Cavs."

99% of the people who hate Golden State don't hate them for their original "Big 3". They hate them because Durant made the weakest move in NBA history.

Additionally, the Bay Area isn't a small market. The Warriors are not comparable to the Cavs. I'm not deflecting anything. I'm directly addressing your post. The Raiders left because of stadium issues, as someone else pointed out.

As for LeBron, AD and Kyrie "teaming up" in LA, there's little to no evidence of that. Kyrie apologized to LeBron, AD requested a trade, and now all of a sudden we're seeing LeBron's multi-year master plan come to fruition? Cmon man. It's complete speculation on your part. AD might go to the Lakers, but he has to be traded there. LeBron can't force the Pelicans to trade him. There's also no evidence of Kyrie planning on going to the Lakers. He's come out and said he plans to resign with Boston. The only thing linking him to LA is that he called LeBron and apologized for being a dickhead. That doesn't mean he plans on joining his team.

 

[Kyrie4MVP0202]

You said:
"Can’t blame Golden State for drafting the greatest team ever and then adding Durant the proper way.

All teams should strive for that. A small market team making it big time by making good decisions.

You end that... you end the Cavs."

99% of the people who hate Golden State don't hate them for their original "Big 3". They hate them because Durant made the weakest move in NBA history.

Additionally, the Bay Area isn't a small market. The Warriors are not comparable to the Cavs. I'm not deflecting anything. I'm directly addressing your post. The Raiders left because of stadium issues, as someone else pointed out.

As for LeBron, AD and Kyrie "teaming up" in LA, there's little to no evidence of that. Kyrie apologized to LeBron, AD requested a trade, and now all of a sudden we're seeing LeBron's multi-year master plan come to fruition? Cmon man. It's complete speculation on your part. AD might go to the Lakers, but he has to be traded there. LeBron can't force the Pelicans to trade him. There's also no evidence of Kyrie planning on going to the Lakers. He's come out and said he plans to resign with Boston. The only thing linking him to LA is that he called LeBron and apologized for being a dickhead. That doesn't mean he plans on joining his team.

So you’re saying Kyrie apologizing doesn’t mean he’s joining the Lakers.

I agree. I just think that’s the beginning of him joining LA. If it happens then maybe what I’m saying holds weight.

If it doesn’t then maybe Boston pushes back and Kyrie doesn’t sign to LA until he’s a free agent.

All I’m saying is that what has happened between LeBron, AD, and Kyrie isn’t a fluke and they would like to be on the same team together.

I find that appalling and if you don’t, that’s fine. Not calling you or Keys, or anybody else out.

 

[CavsFan07]

Aside from the bombardment of hilarious conspiracy theories that are flooding this thread....


Can we really blame AD for wanting out? I'm not saying he should say he wants to go to a major market, even though I'm sure that IS what he wants...

.... but from a competitive standpoint, can anyone really be mad at him? He's been with New Orleans for 7 years and they've never even been remotely close to realistically challenging for a title. It doesn't help that many of those years occurred during the Golden State dynasty... but the Pelicans haven't exactly put together a product to consistently compete.

 

[gourimoko]

@gourimoko Durant wants to beat Lebron. He wont join him.

I don't actually think that's true; those guys are friends and that being said Durant just wants to win rings, and he wants to get paid. He won't leave Golden State if there is not a cushy place for him to land - but if he could, and play with James and Davis, potentially as their best player in a year or two, then he probably would.

Also, Kemba is no Kyrie.
Kyrie is a GS killer.

I agree with you here; but Kyrie will probably cost $8-10M more than Kemba, and Kemba gets you 75% of what Kyrie does without the baggage. Kemba also plays defense. 29 teams in the league would rather have Kyrie, but I don't think the Lakers are one of them. Not with LeBron on the roster.

Now if they traded LeBron for Davis then....

NOP will be forced to trade to the Lakers because Davis wont resign anywhere else.

That's not really in the cards right now given Davis has 1.5 years left on his deal; not until next year at least. So given that dynamic, the Lakers trade package isn't so compelling as to force any team out of the discussion.

Also LeBron hates midget point guards.

Pretty sure you're joking because, he in fact, for some reason, seems to love them...

That being said, Kemba is 2" shorter than Kyrie but plays like he's 2" taller. Kyrie is very averse to use strength, height and physicality to his advantage preferring to rely on skill rather than athleticism. Kemba is quite different in that regard.

 

[Cavatt]

Aside from the bombardment of hilarious conspiracy theories that are flooding this thread....


Can we really blame AD for wanting out? I'm not saying he should say he wants to go to a major market, even though I'm sure that IS what he wants...

.... but from a competitive standpoint, can anyone really be mad at him? He's been with New Orleans for 7 years and they've never even been remotely close to realistically challenging for a title. It doesn't help that many of those years occurred during the Golden State dynasty... but the Pelicans haven't exactly put together a product to consistently compete.

The entire league is unhappy until someone unseats that team. Ok they did it within the rules, but it was a total fluke. No one else gets the opportunity they got and maybe things break different for that organization without them. Boogie even signed to GS instead of NO. They got nothing because he got hurt in a contract year.

Davis should play out his contract. GS ruined the league for now. It's one of the most talented group of players the league has ever seen, and yet there is no doubt who will win because Durant joined the superteam who barely beat him.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Can we really blame AD for wanting out? I'm not saying he should say he wants to go to a major market, even though I'm sure that IS what he wants...

I think this part is glossed over because Cavaliers fans are coming off two All NBA level players leaving in consecutive seasons. Davis had no ties to New Orleans but was a good soldier for seven seasons. For the most part, those seasons were wasted as the GM failed to acquire enough talent to make much of a splash in the post season. It was often painful watching Davis and a bunch of nobodies get swept time after time in the first round.

I thought the Pelicans were onto something last season, but the Boogie injury killed them. Now they find themselves in the familiar position of bottom quarter of the Western Conference.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

I mean of course you thought Kyrie in that light.

He played you.

Now look at him. A superstar apologizing and throwing his entire organization under the bus. Now LeBron is singing to him...

Dude.... you got PLAYED. Kyrie makes movies man. We know what Kyrie is. He’s Uncle Drew and he’ll be Uncle Drew in Hollywood where he thinks Uncle Drew belongs.

LeBron himself says he couldn’t recruit guys to Cleveland because it’s Cleveland in a recent interview. He says it in a way that makes his decision to go to LA obvious much like Kyries apology to LeBron was OBVIOUSLY timed.

This shit should be an FBI case that involves hundreds of millions of dollars involved in a mass case of collusion.

This is literally WWE style tactics used for actual NBA business and entertainment.

I like your style, @Kyrie4MVP0202