Cedi Osman Goodbye & Good Luck

[Lee]

Maybe we can hold a bake sale or something to help out Gilbert with the costs?

Its that buy out money counts toward contract and we are very tight on signing players because we are over the max. Its not the 2 or 3 mill buyout, its that its money counted toward caps.

 

[Man Called X]

Lee, this is the first time I believe you've ever brought CBA knowledge that I didn't know.

A congratulations are in order.

 

[Lee]

Lee, this is the first time I believe you've ever brought CBA knowledge that I didn't know.

A congratulations are in order.

Its why you see so few come over before the contract is up and the Euro clubs do it on purpose to be kind of a poison pill. No big deal, he is 19, 2 years is better over there anyways.

 

[David.]

Its why you see so few come over before the contract is up and the Euro clubs do it on purpose to be kind of a poison pill. No big deal, he is 19, 2 years is better over there anyways.

that seems counterproductive to the nba's best interests.. they should do all they can to pull talent from all over the world to make the nba the best product it can be.. unless they crae more about global expansion at the moment

 

[MirORich]

Could be a sign that the Cavs are beginning to look at him more as part of the long term plan than as simply a trade chip.

Regardless, his excellent play in euro basket as one of the youngest players there only enhances his value and looks good on the Cavs scouting department and draft strategy.

 

[Lee]

Could be a sign that the Cavs are beginning to look at him more as part of the long term plan than as simply a trade chip.

Regardless, his excellent play in euro basket as one of the youngest players there only enhances his value and looks good on the Cavs scouting department and draft strategy.

I think he was the target all along, by taking in the 2nd, we can pay him whatever we want too in order to attract him over here.

 

[Lee]

Could be a sign that the Cavs are beginning to look at him more as part of the long term plan than as simply a trade chip.

Regardless, his excellent play in euro basket as one of the youngest players there only enhances his value and looks good on the Cavs scouting department and draft strategy.

It is a loophole to pay Euro teams for buyouts and not count, kind of like having a Euro minor league affiliate. I get your point, but I see why they closed it.

 

[Lee]

Lee, this is the first time I believe you've ever brought CBA knowledge that I didn't know.

A congratulations are in order.

Further, anything over something like 600k has to come from the players, meaning the NBA team would have to up their salary of the player to make it worth while to buy out the contract himself.

Like I said previous, poison pills on purpose.

 

[MirORich]

I think he was the target all along, by taking in the 2nd, we can pay him whatever we want too in order to attract him over here.

Is this the case? When the Bull brought Mirotic over finally after 3-4 years, did they sign with cap space, the MLE, or where they allowed to sign him to any deal they wanted regardless of where they were with the salary cap?

Actually just realized/remembered Mirotic was a 1st round pick.

Time to dive into the Larry Coon CBAFAQ

 

[westsidebob]

$650k of the money the Cavs contribute to a buyout would not count against the cap. Anything above that would be "paid by the player", which means for the Cavs, they'd have to sign him to more than a rookie minimum contract (think mid-level exception) and have him pay off his former club. Since the Cavs have used up their midlevel this year, they can't offer Osman more than the minimum.

However, next year and in following years, they can offer him up to the taxpayer mid-level exception ($3.477M), but only because he was a second round pick. If he was a first round pick, he'd be subject to the rookie salary scale. If you're going to draft and stash, you do it in the second round so that you have the ability to pay more if you need to to lure them/get them out of their Euro contract.

Though it doesn't explain taking Rakeem Christmas at 36 and flipping him for a 2019 second rounder, but that's another thread.

 

[Lee]

$650k of the money the Cavs contribute to a buyout would not count against the cap. Anything above that would be "paid by the player", which means for the Cavs, they'd have to sign him to more than a rookie minimum contract (think mid-level exception) and have him pay off his former club. Since the Cavs have used up their midlevel this year, they can't offer Osman more than the minimum.

However, next year and in following years, they can offer him up to the taxpayer mid-level exception ($3.477M), but only because he was a second round pick. If he was a first round pick, he'd be subject to the rookie salary scale. If you're going to draft and stash, you do it in the second round so that you have the ability to pay more if you need to to lure them/get them out of their Euro contract.

Though it doesn't explain taking Rakeem Christmas at 36 and flipping him for a 2019 second rounder, but that's another thread.

Here is what i found on him, you are 100% correct, but i dont think he is coming over next year.

Cedi Osman is under contract for two more years and has stated his intent to finish his contract in Turkey before coming to the NBA in 2017.

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3lLdrstnG
http://www.draftexpress.com

 

[spydy13]

Here is what i found on him, you are 100% correct, but i dont think he is coming over next year.

Cedi Osman is under contract for two more years and has stated his intent to finish his contract in Turkey before coming to the NBA in 2017.

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3lLdrstnG
http://www.draftexpress.com

Yeah, I think meeting with him is just to show him that we have serious interest in him so he doesn't go off and sign another deal to stay in Europe.

And if I'm Osman I'd rather just finish out my deal so any money I get goes straight to me and not towards a buyout.

 

[Adam]

Cedi is still very young. It might be best for him to mature back home than have to worry about adjusting to the cultural changes and develop with erratic playing time. Hopefully he comes in 2017 and provides a spark to a veteran core

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Here is what i found on him, you are 100% correct, but i dont think he is coming over next year.

Cedi Osman is under contract for two more years and has stated his intent to finish his contract in Turkey before coming to the NBA in 2017.

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3lLdrstnG
http://www.draftexpress.com

I hope a lockout/strike in 2017-2018 doesn't induce the Outomatic Ottoman to stay over for a couple of additional years.....

 

[westsidebob]

It's just a shame the Cavs traded Anthony Bennett. We could've had years of AB - Cedi hookups.

Next time won't you play with me?