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There are also real life human beings who constantly misread and misrepresent what other people say and think.

Whew.
Just own it. I’m not going to go back and quote but don’t be a douche about it now after the fact
 
There are real life human beings that as short as 3 weeks ago wanted to build around Kizer and NOT draft a QB #1

Wew

Has Kizer had the worst season for a starting QB of all time?

He has to be close because his numbers are beyond the pale.
 
Has Kizer had the worst season for a starting QB of all time?

He has to be close because his numbers are beyond the pale.

Usually when a QB plays as bad as Kizer they don't get to start like 14 games. The problem is that our coach is so bad that all our QBs look like shit regardless of who the starter is, so might as well roll with Kizer.
 
Just own it. I’m not going to go back and quote but don’t be a douche about it now after the fact
Quote all you want. I completely own anything I've said here. I never said anything other than that I hoped Kizer could get it together but I always said if he didn't we'd need to draft a QB with the top pick. I always said it was less and less likely as we got deeper into the season with him continuing to fail. Learn how to read and comprehend.

At no point did I ever say we shouldn't draft a QB if Kizer continued to suck at record breaking, epic levels the way he has all season.
 
Has Kizer had the worst season for a starting QB of all time?

He has to be close because his numbers are beyond the pale.

Check out Terry Bradshaw's rookie year. He only started 8 out of 14 games, but..... 38%, 6tds, 24 ints.
A different time, but his stats never got really good. That said, Kizer has been horrible. I look for him to be 3 next year behind a veteran and the draft pick.
 
Check out Terry Bradshaw's rookie year. He only started 8 out of 14 games, but..... 38%, 6tds, 24 ints.
A different time, but his stats never got really good. That said, Kizer has been horrible. I look for him to be 3 next year behind a veteran and the draft pick.

Terry Bradshaw is the most overrated quarterback of all time.

He’s in the Hall of Fame because of the Steel Curtain, and Swann and Stallworth were some of the best the league has seen.

In fact, I put him on par with Rex Grossman.

If Grossman has that defense and those receivers, he also would’ve won Super Bowls. Hell, he almost did with that Bears defense.
 
Anyone have an idea what the Vikings will do at QB? Will Bridgewater be available?
 
Not that I enjoy this thought, but let's say we got an Eli Manning, Michael Vick, or John Elway situation on our hand (I don't believe Vick -didn't- want to go to San Diego fwiw).

and I am typing this while I grit my teeth my teeth because hey, guess what? I hate trade downs. I hate that idea. I don't want it to happen.

But....let's say Rosen continues to pull this stunt. Let's also say...for the sake of argument? Darnold stays in school, and we're left with holding Rosen for "ransom" for the highest bidder.

What can we possibly get for him? (and god this sucks type out)

And god they really are in hell mode of that idiot doesn't want to come here.

I am going to call my shot on this.

Baker Mayfield is going to be a bust. Quote me. Mock me. Whatever. I want nothing to do with him. End of story.

I don't feel safe drafting that guy. At. All.
 
Dudes hesitant to come here...who the hell wouldn't be! We have ruined the career of every qb that has come through the doors over the last 20 years. Sure we want someone to say that they want to be the qb to change everything...but Jesus...we can't even get a GM and coach on the same page, how the hell are we going to create a good situation for a young qb.
I think Rosen is a little fragile, but he gets the ball out quickly and has a nice touch on his throws. Our offensive line is not bad and he will have to opportunity to make plays if he comes here.
 
I find it interesting to see people not blaming Rosen for not wanting to be here but also trashing the FO for not trading for Jimmy G who along with NE did not want to trade him here. So Jimmy G, BB, Don Yee, and NE didn't wanna trade Jimmy G to Cleveland and our FO sucks but Josh Rosen doesn't want to get drafted by Cleveland and it's "Can you blame him" ????

I see you....

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Dudes hesitant to come here...who the hell wouldn't be! We have ruined the career of every qb that has come through the doors over the last 20 years. Sure we want someone to say that they want to be the qb to change everything...but Jesus...we can't even get a GM and coach on the same page, how the hell are we going to create a good situation for a young qb.
I think Rosen is a little fragile, but he gets the ball out quickly and has a nice touch on his throws. Our offensive line is not bad and he will have to opportunity to make plays if he comes here.

The only thing different about Rosen and the other quarterbacks we have brought in here, is none of them were supposed to be franchise quarterback’s. No matter where we took them in the draft none of them were supposed to be a franchise QB. Every QB we bring in seems to always have some type issue that needs to be worked out or they need to be developed.
 
The only thing different about Rosen and the other quarterbacks we have brought in here, is none of them were supposed to be franchise quarterback’s. No matter where we took them in the draft none of them were supposed to be a franchise QB. Every QB we bring in seems to always have some type issue that needs to be worked out or they need to be developed.

It's not like Rosen is a lock to be a FQB either though. You can make a very strong case that he isn't.
 

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