Cleveland Development Thread

[Maximus]

What are the chances the Phase 2 of the Flats actually happens?

90%

 

[Huber.]

90%

you got a pie chart to back that up?

 

[Maximus]

you got a pie chart to back that up?

 

[Huber.]

Just reminds me of that lakefront district project next to CBS that never is going to happen.

 

[Soda]

Just reminds me of that lakefront district project next to CBS that never is going to happen.

Well, there's a difference....

The lakefront plan is full of terrible ideas.. Like a pedestrian bridge that takes you from Mall C (City Hall) to the Science Center...

The East Bank plan is pretty well conceived and can actually yield boat traffic. Not to mention that the east bank plan has tenants already signed and the plan is far, far further along already. I mean, buildings have already been built.. The lakefront plan seemed, to me, to be more of a conceptual proposition to get the wheels turning.

What was this..

Is now this.

 

[MoFlo]

Straight from the horse's mouth:

Dan Gilbert ‏@cavsdan
(1 of 3)Phase 2 of Cleveland casino will be built. In design phase now.Very important to get feedback of customers experience from 1st phase

Dan Gilbert ‏@cavsdan
(2/3)Urban casinos are new concept.Getting key project right more importnt than rushing it Exploring more than just gaming in & around Phase 2

Dan Gilbert ‏@cavsdan
3/3 More to be revealed in months ahead. Ignoring noise of yellow journalists & will plow forward. As always, thanks for your support, Cleveland

 

[ajz20]

I am looking at this from a distance but I really though Stage 2 would be complete by the spring of 2014.... Has the Casino popularity already run its course?

 

[col63onel]

Is now this.

Does someone have an estimate on how many jobs E&Y are bringing. It's an impressive building.

 

[The Voice]

I am looking at this from a distance but I really though Stage 2 would be complete by the spring of 2014.... Has the Casino popularity already run its course?

I think part of it is there's not enough room for all the games they want in there. I hear people complain all the time that there's not enough penny slots or not enough nickle slots.

 

[Soda]

Does someone have an estimate on how many jobs E&Y are bringing. It's an impressive building.

I'm not sure how many jobs they're making that will add... They're basically just moving their people into that central location. It isn't ideal, but a new building built is a good thing.

I think part of it is there's not enough room for all the games they want in there. I hear people complain all the time that there's not enough penny slots or not enough nickle slots.

This is very true. I don't go there because I can't sit down and play a game of blackjack... Even when I do get a seat, I have someone hovering over my shoulder trying to scavenge the first available seat. Definitely had a more enjoyable time at Pittsburgh's casino, as much as I do not like that city as a whole.

 

[The Voice]

This is very true. I don't go there because I can't sit down and play a game of blackjack... Even when I do get a seat, I have someone hovering over my shoulder trying to scavenge the first available seat. Definitely had a more enjoyable time at Pittsburgh's casino, as much as I do not like that city as a whole.

Really? I find Pittsburgh fun, but I hate their sports teams. They have a better night life downtown and more things to do then Cleveland. Their casino is nice, plus they don't even talk about charging for parking.

 

[MoFlo]

Michelle J. McFee ‏@mjarboe
New homes in #CLE's Slavic Village will be priced at $126K to $132K, w/ support of public-private partnership: http://www.cleveland.com/business/i...velopment_could_br.html#incart_river_business …

 

[CavsFinals2016]

Boom.

Cuyahoga County, Cleveland partner to spur convention center hotel, public-space overhaul

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- In a rare collaboration, Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson and Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald are partnering to push forward on roughly $350 million worth of long-discussed downtown development, including a convention center hotel and a nearby pedestrian bridge to the lakefront.

FitzGerald will announce today that he plans to use extra money from the convention center complex to support construction of a 600-to-700-room hotel in place of the county's administration building at Lakeside Avenue and Ontario Street. Lower construction costs and higher-than-expected sales tax and hotel bed tax revenues -- the funding streams for the convention center and attached Global Center for Health Innovation -- have left the county with a windfall.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/i...part.html#incart_river_default#incart_m-rpt-2

 

[kevinoc0]

Does someone have an estimate on how many jobs E&Y are bringing. It's an impressive building.

I did a presentation last semester on the East Bank project and ended up speaking to the VP of Finance for Fairmount Properties. According to him, they were shooting for 2,000 permanent office jobs in the building. Granted, they won't all be part of E&Y, but that at least gives you some idea.

I was able to get inside the building during the construction too. They courtyard in between the office building and hotel will be really nice. They also have a hell of a parking garage underneath the building, too. I'd post some pictures if anyone is genuinely interested, but it was basically the bare bones of the building.

 

[Soda]

Boom.


http://www.cleveland.com/business/i...part.html#incart_river_default#incart_m-rpt-2

I'm better with visuals.