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Connecticut School Shooting

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DDJ7777 said:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/potential_connecticut_school_shooting_8HMOSbP38TXwSYYsVGkYLO

Reportedly it's Adam Lanza, not Ryan Lanza. 20 year old brother of Ryan.
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DDJ7777 said:
A lot of news media was reporting it was this twitter as well... https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza

He's had some weird tweets in the past but you could tell it wasn't the same dude from the facebook that was linked.
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and this is why it's damn near impossible to have any idea what exactly happened for the first hours immediately after something like this

the media just snap-reports absolutely everything they hear without any care for accuracy. it's awful.

kid was proclaimed to be the murderer by damn near every news outlet, then it turns out he *might* just be the brother of the true killer. oh, and his mom/dad/others were also killed in the process. mass media shining yet again and making the situation 10x worse for the guy.
 
Triumph36 said:
and this is why it's damn near impossible to have any idea what exactly happened for the first hours immediately after something like this

the media just snap-reports absolutely everything they hear without any care for accuracy. it's awful.

kid was proclaimed to be the murderer by damn near every news outlet, then it turns out he *might* just be the brother of the true killer. oh, and his mom/dad/others were also killed in the process. mass media shining yet again and making the situation 10x worse for the guy.
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Which is why the government should control the news.
 
If the brother is innocent, I hope he sues the fuck out of the news outlets. His life is ruined
 
Prayers go out to the victims and families of those that were lost.
 
And this type of crime is exactly my point about gun control laws being pointless.

There are laws that tell us we can't have guns on school property. There are laws that tell us we can't use guns to murder people, or we will get an even more serious punishment than using some other method. And those laws did what to stop this man? Nothing.

Yet, a law telling a person he can't own a gun...now THAT would have stopped someone like him? No. Not even a little.

EDIT: And to the point that it is to "easy" to get a gun. How hard is it to get drugs? Not that hard. Why in the world would gun control laws that would largely mimic drug laws have any greater impact on how "easy" it is to get a gun that it does for drugs? No, you can't go to the local pharmacy and buy cocaine, but is it hard to buy cocaine? Similarly, you might not be able to go to the local store and buy a gun, but would it be hard to obtain a gun? No, it wouldn't. You would merely prevent those who wish to abide by the law from owning a gun. Someone who intends to murder a massive amount of people? He'll find it very easy to acquire a weapon.
 
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Goldin Brown said:
I don't think this has anything to do with gun control. This is about crazy people. A crazed individual who wants to inflict pain will always figure out a way.
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And it pisses me off even more that me having a degree in Psychology, that can't get a job in the Psychology field was once told that "there isn't a need for people with Psychology degrees" and "Psychology is a dead end degree now"...Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
 
Schools need metal detectors and guards at the school. Whether it to breakup a fight, or spending time teaching kids the dangers of drugs, alcohol, violence and the consequences for people who partake in them. Society has got to get better, we have to do a better job, I just don't know how or where to start.

My heart aches for the victims and their families, it's impossible to comprehend how awful this truly is. I believe there should be more extensive background checks on guns, and the TYPE of guns that should be allowed to the public. A .223 caliber rifle should not be just floating around for people to say shoot up an elementary school with. It starts with people, I know guns don't hop up and shoot people but they also enable psychopaths to go on rampages such as this and tear families and communities apart.

We need to find a more common ground on well just about everything.
 
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cdt said:
Schools need metal detectors and guards at the school. Whether it to breakup a fight, or spending time teaching kids the dangers of drugs, alcohol, violence and the consequences for people who partake in them. Society has got to get better, we have to do a better job, I just don't know how or where to start.
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A metal detector might stop a student from sneaking a weapon into a school, but it won't stop a psychopath from coming to the school with several guns and the intent of murdering as many people as possible.
 
They pass through a metal detector, if they fail the door does not open. They then place their belongings in a tray that slides down to an attendant.
 
There's absolutely no way of finding a solution to these problems, and that's the ugly truth.

You're never going to eradicate guns in the US. You're never going to eradicate sociopaths.Just go hug your loved ones and mean it.
 
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World has went to hell in a handbasket. It's just scary to think how much more common these type of scenes are becoming. Growing up, I think the scariest thing I remember was the OKC bombings. After that, it was years before I remember something horrible happening. Now, it seems like every 3-4 months, we've got another killing spree/mass murder/something.

Just downright terrifying.
 
cdt said:
They pass through a metal detector, if they fail the door does not open. They then place their belongings in a tray that slides down to an attendant.
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And what's to stop an armed maniac from simply going in through a window or just gunning down the attendant? Metal detectors aren't a reasonable solution to people whose intent is mass murder. They're useful for making sure kids don't sneak knives into school.
 
I didn't think anything could still shock me. This actually had me choked up. The world is just a scary fucking place and always has been.
 
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