Connecticut School Shooting

[UncleDrew]

I didn't think anything could still shock me. This actually had me choked up. The world is just a scary fucking place and always will be.

Fixed it for you. To me, I think it will always be scary...when you think things couldn't get worse..they do. I didn't think anything could get worse than 9/11..hell, I didn't even think anything could get worse at the Colorado theater shooting. Just fucked up. Little kids being targets, especially..terrible. I feel worse for the kids who actually witnessed it and are alive still. Fuck..

 

[Tlyons]

Horrible. Pathetic human being. I feel deeply sorry for those affected.

Moral: You cannot quickly render someone using weapons ineffective unless using weapons to combat.....start arming yourself, or take a police officer with you.....or do nothing. Or, continue to wish that guns be banned.....you'll be wishing far too long.

And even more important, if you have someone close to you who is having a hard time with life for whatever reason, intervene. Get them help or something. Act. Don't just do nothing because "it's none of my business". Not saying this will always work but it is most effective IMO to stop shit like this before it ever materializes.

Everyone is so detached from the real world anymore. It's just a shame. I feel so bad for these families.

Haven't read the whole article yet, just the headline.

 

[KB]

IMO opinion things like this happen because of a lack of understanding of mental conditions, Someone that does something like this is not in their right mind.

I think part of the reason these incidents are becoming more common is because of the way people communicate.

Communication has become so impersonal that you can talk to someone for hours and never have to hear the other persons voice.

To me this impersonal form of communication lowers the chance of a friend/family member figuring out something is wrong before a person "snaps". It lowers the chances of noticing it beforehand because the impersonal form of communication removes the ability to hear vocal tone, see body language or conviction of the eyes (spaced out/distant look Vs alert/clear minded)

Humankind evolved to pick up on those subtle cues as we are a social species. These cues being removed from the new forms of communication leads to more selfish behavior, less meaningful conversations as well as personal relationships. (Just a theory)

Going back to mental conditions.

I think this is a big part of the problem as the understanding of them is not very advanced. Drugs like Prozac havn't been around that long, Prozac itself has only been approved by FDA since 87. Until we understand the mental conditions that seem so obvious after these people who commit acts such as this these kind of incidents will continue to happen.

 

[Marcus]

If this is what our world has become, then I honestly don't care if it ends next week.

 

[Tlyons]

Granted I'm not an expert on the subject, but I'm pretty sure you don't hunt with assault rifles.

Edit: And that aside, real men hunt with a bow and arrow anyway.

Very Alpha of you sir.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

Gun control debate completely aside, I really think hunting with a compound bow would be far more entertaining than using a gun.

 

[DCunleaded]

I have been sick, to the point of nearly vomiting, since we first started watching the live broadcasts today around noon.

Being a firefighter, I have seen some horrible things; being a father, all I wanted to do today was leave the station and get home to my two kids. My wife was in a no-tv/phones/etc meeting until 2pm, then started bawling once she heard the terrible news. We (FD/PD/etc) like to think that things we see on shift don't get to us; that's pretty much true until there are children involved. I can't even imagine what thoughts were in the heads of the SWAT guys making entry to the school, with kids screaming and bodies everywhere; all in this small town where faces are so familiar.

I've never shot a gun before, nor have I ever thought different of anyone for owning a gun; just has never been my 'thing'. I'm for changing gun laws, not sure what but I don't think the status quo is working. There are lots of teachers in both my wife's and my family, and I'm not sure what they'd do with a CCW on their person-not speaking poorly of them, just thinking aloud.

Not sure where to begin after today...I guess just count down the hours until 730am tomorrow, and enjoy the kids' post-shift hugfest.

My wife posted this on FB, not sure where she got it: "I think the Mayans simply suffered a typo; it's not the end of the world, but the end of humanity". Another friend, and ex-military guy, posted this: "Once upon a time, kids used to be off limits. The End."

 

[JSS2306]

I have been sick, to the point of nearly vomiting, since we first started watching the live broadcasts today around noon.

Being a firefighter, I have seen some horrible things; being a father, all I wanted to do today was leave the station and get home to my two kids. My wife was in a no-tv/phones/etc meeting until 2pm, then started bawling once she heard the terrible news. We (FD/PD/etc) like to think that things we see on shift don't get to us; that's pretty much true until there are children involved. I can't even imagine what thoughts were in the heads of the SWAT guys making entry to the school, with kids screaming and bodies everywhere; all in this small town where faces are so familiar.

I've never shot a gun before, nor have I ever thought different of anyone for owning a gun; just has never been my 'thing'. I'm for changing gun laws, not sure what but I don't think the status quo is working. There are lots of teachers in both my wife's and my family, and I'm not sure what they'd do with a CCW on their person-not speaking poorly of them, just thinking aloud.

Not sure where to begin after today...I guess just count down the hours until 730am tomorrow, and enjoy the kids' post-shift hugfest.

My wife posted this on FB, not sure where she got it: "I think the Mayans simply suffered a typo; it's not the end of the world, but the end of humanity". Another friend, and ex-military guy, posted this: "Once upon a time, kids used to be off limits. The End."

Except for the Myans used to sacrifice children...

 

[Tlyons]

When you guys say security guards in schools, do you mean uniformed/off-duty police officers or do you really mean security guards with guns? My highschool had a uniformed police officer or two everyday it seemed.

 

[Numbers Guy]

If this is what our world has become, then I honestly don't care if it ends next week.

Ugh, I keep hearing this after every tragedy. Historically, things like this have always happened.. even more so than now. The difference? The media reports it now. School killings can be traced far and away back. Massacres have happened since the beginning of time. It is not new.

It's a horrible, horrible tragedy.. but banning guns and claiming the world has gone to shit doesn't do anything.. nor is it necessarily true.

 

[Kizzle]

If these guys are trying to outdue each other how do you outdue going to an elementary school and spraying?


I seriously think someone is gonna try to outdue this guy and its gonna be just horrible. I wanted to cry so much when I saw that all these parents lost their babies man......Thats they babies cmon why would you take away people's babies just because YOUR mom didnt love you? You selfish cowardly fuck

 

[Rich]

Ugh, I keep hearing this after every tragedy. Historically, things like this have always happened.. even more so than now. The difference? The media reports it now. School killings can be traced far and away back. Massacres have happened since the beginning of time. It is not new.

It's a horrible, horrible tragedy.. but banning guns and claiming the world has gone to shit doesn't do anything.. nor is it necessarily true.

But really, do they happen more now? Maybe in the history of this country, yes. But since the dawn of man mass killings, of one type or another, have been going on. And in extremely sadistic and sick fashion. Many times, it's been a government doing the killings, but that makes it no better.

The world has always been an evil place.

 

[Numbers Guy]

But really, do they happen more now? Maybe in the history of this country, yes. But since the dawn of man mass killings, of one type or another, have been going on. And in extremely sadistic and sick fashion. Many times, it's been a government doing the killings, but that makes it no better.

The world has always been an evil place.

Statistically, violent crime peaked in the 90's and has decreased since then. Crime now is actually on par with the 60's, 70's.. so I never understand why older folk always talk about how the world has gone to shit since they were a kid.

Like I said, its because the media that it is magnified.

 

[Tlyons]

My kneejerk from this shit is to get rid of all guns. Except for gov't/military/police related(kneejerk reaction, calm down)

How do you lose your son/daughter in a shooting at school? How do you quantify that? How do you accept it? How do you tell a parent that? I hope the very best and brightest counselors are on the job there.

I wish i could do something to ease the pain.

 

[Marcus]

Ugh, I keep hearing this after every tragedy. Historically, things like this have always happened.. even more so than now. The difference? The media reports it now. School killings can be traced far and away back. Massacres have happened since the beginning of time. It is not new.

It's a horrible, horrible tragedy.. but banning guns and claiming the world has gone to shit doesn't do anything.. nor is it necessarily true.

I didn't say anything about banning guns at all -- if anything it would just make the problem worse. It is just so disheartening to see what humanity itself has seemingly stooped to. Day by day, we are desensitized to the plight of others and we only look out for ourselves. Less value than ever before is placed in things that should matter the most -- things like compassion and generosity.

I don't need to stomp my feet and simply claim that the world itself has gone to shit and that we as humans are throwing away morals that we once held dear -- the evidence is all around you, and this senseless, barbaric slaughter is just the tip of the iceberg, one of many, many terrible things that make me feel the way I do.