Dion Waiters Traded

[Rich]

denver ended up losing that trade so...

In what way? Was Fournier ever going to break out in Denver? Probably not. Waiters isn't going to break out here either.

Here is what I know. For his career Aaron Afflalo has been a better player than Dion Waiters. As of right now, Aaron Afflalo is not only a better player but just fits the team better. If Waiters went to Orlando and broke out, whatever. Aaron Afflalo would still be the better fit for this team.

 

[Cashius X]

Grave digging this thread would be pretty funny right now. I think even the huge section of people that though Dion was going to be an All-Star are even starting to see the writing on the wall.

We all want our own picks to work out and turn into the next star, hard to blame them.

Dion didn't just suddenly become a shit player Zen, same goes for TT. They're still talented guys who can definitely help this team win. We saw in preseason that they can be effective. It's just up to the coaching staff to bring the most out of them by putting them in the right spots.

Outside of Andy and Kyrie everyone looks bad. LeBron has looked disinterested, has been coasting on defense, and is shooting the 2nd worst % from the field of his career (all the while posting a career high in TO per game). Kevin Love is currently shooting 38% from the field. Dion has looked terrible. TT has looked terrible. Everybody has been talking up Joe Harris but he's also shooting a shitty % from the field (38%). Mike Miller has looked horrid.

I'm not sure why everyone has been piling on Dion and TT especially when we even saw in preseason how effective and valuable they can be. They're not the main problems with this team. Not even close. It's a shame they've been scapegoated though as if they are what's truly holding this team back. That's bullshit.

 

[David.]

Dion didn't just suddenly become a shit player Zen, same goes for TT. They're still talented guys who can definitely help this team win. We saw in preseason that they can be effective. It's just up to the coaching staff to bring the most out of them by putting them in the right spots.

Outside of Andy and Kyrie everyone looks bad. LeBron has looked disinterested, has been coasting on defense, and is shooting the 2nd worst % from the field of his career (all the while posting a career high in TO per game). Kevin Love is currently shooting 38% from the field. Dion has looked terrible. TT has looked terrible. Everybody has been talking up Joe Harris but he's also shooting a shitty % from the field (38%). Mike Miller has looked horrid.

I'm not sure why everyone has been piling on Dion and TT especially when we even saw in preseason how effective and valuable they can be. They're not the main problems with this team. Not even close. It's a shame they've been scapegoated though as if they are what's truly holding this team back. That's bullshit.

what he can be and what he consistently is are on two different planets.

please give it a rest. especially since you are the owner of accusations of 'ridiculous opinions'.

 

[Cashius X]

what he can be and what he consistently is are on two different planets.

please give it a rest. especially since you are the owner of accusations of 'ridiculous opinions'.

I literally have no idea how this relates to my post. Please stop trolling me. It's annoying.

 

[Rich]

I literally have no idea how this relates to my post. Please stop trolling me. It's annoying.

Your definition of being trolled or someone trolling is way out of whack. I remember your response to someone calling you out for all of the dumb ratings you were handing out and it was along the lines of "I only do that when I think people are trolling." Most of the people weren't trolling, just merely disagreeing with you. Understand the difference because David isn't trolling you right now at all.

 

[David.]

I literally have no idea how this relates to my post. Please stop trolling me. It's annoying.

it literally answers your post.


"I'm not sure why everyone has been piling on Dion and TT especially when we even saw in preseason how effective and valuable they can be. "


read some shit dude.

 

[Cassity14]

Comparing Dion and Tristan is so rediculous. Tristan does the one thing we've yet to see from Dion - give 100% every minute he's on the floor.

If Tristan had half of Dion's natural ability, he'd be a fucking all-pro.

 

[spydy13]

Dion didn't just suddenly become a shit player Zen, same goes for TT. They're still talented guys who can definitely help this team win. We saw in preseason that they can be effective. It's just up to the coaching staff to bring the most out of them by putting them in the right spots.

Outside of Andy and Kyrie everyone looks bad. LeBron has looked disinterested, has been coasting on defense, and is shooting the 2nd worst % from the field of his career (all the while posting a career high in TO per game). Kevin Love is currently shooting 38% from the field. Dion has looked terrible. TT has looked terrible. Everybody has been talking up Joe Harris but he's also shooting a shitty % from the field (38%). Mike Miller has looked horrid.

I'm not sure why everyone has been piling on Dion and TT especially when we even saw in preseason how effective and valuable they can be. They're not the main problems with this team. Not even close. It's a shame they've been scapegoated though as if they are what's truly holding this team back. That's bullshit.

I think it is mostly because our bench is terrible right now, and those two guys were supposed to give us energy and good play while leading that unit.

Yes, LeBron and Love aren't playing great, but they are playing heads and shoulders better than those two right now. TT and Dion need to pull their weight, because our starters can't play the whole game.

 

[EugB23]

Really missing Dellavadova right now, have yet to see the solid defense on the perimeter that this guy is supposed to show, based on PER numbers from last season....

 

[Cashius X]

Your definition of being trolled or someone trolling is way out of whack. I remember your response to someone calling you out for all of the dumb ratings you were handing out and it was along the lines of "I only do that when I think people are trolling." Most of the people weren't trolling, just merely disagreeing with you. Understand the difference because David isn't trolling you right now at all.

David has been following me wherever I post marking my posts dumb and starting petty arguments. That's trolling. I'm not an idiot.

And the vast majority of the dumb ratings I handed out early on were to July2014 users who I genuinely thought were trolling. I don't flag posts that disagree with my opinions "dumb" Rich, that's what the disagree option is for.

Way to derail the thread though, guy.

 

[Triumph36]

In what way? Was Fournier ever going to break out in Denver? Probably not. Waiters isn't going to break out here either.

Here is what I know. For his career Aaron Afflalo has been a better player than Dion Waiters. As of right now, Aaron Afflalo is not only a better player but just fits the team better. If Waiters went to Orlando and broke out, whatever. Aaron Afflalo would still be the better fit for this team.

he wasn't going to break out in denver because brian shaw is a genius who thought playing randy foye and aaron brooks a combined 60mpg on a bad team was somehow a smart idea. he wasn't going to break out there because he wasn't going to be given the opportunity. on the other hand, dion has gotten plenty of opportunity already and hasn't done anything with it. orlando realizes they are rebuilding so they gave him the chance to do his thing and he is flourishing. send dion down to orlando and he's still a chucker who can't finish.

if denver could go back and reverse that trade they would ten times out of ten. wanting to have traded dion for afflalo is fine, but the team that did trade their young sg for him ended up making a really poor trade. you said you wish the cavs had been the team trading their young 2 guard for afflalo......well, denver wishes the cavs were that team too.

 

[Rich]

He didn't fucking start a petty argument. He DIRECTLY responded to your post about Dion Waiters and you then chimed in that he was trolling you.

And the vast majority of the dumb ratings I handed out early on were to July2014 users who I genuinely thought were trolling. I don't flag posts that disagree with my opinions "dumb" Rich, that's what the disagree option is for.

Ah, but see the problem here is that we can all go look at your profile page and see just how many ratings you have handed out. Take a guess at the dumb to disagree ratio you're rocking right now.

 

[David.]

David has been following me wherever I post marking my posts dumb and starting petty arguments. That's trolling. I'm not an idiot.

And the vast majority of the dumb ratings I handed out early on were to July2014 users who I genuinely thought were trolling. I don't flag posts that disagree with my opinions "dumb" Rich, that's what the disagree option is for.

Way to derail the thread though, guy.

ive rated one more post dumb than you have of mine, up until this last one, which again warrants the rating.

in fact, I aknowledged your earlier points in a respectful fashion to another poster in your defense earlier, even though I disagreed with it.

If directly answering your post is trolling, i dont know what to tell you.

 

[Cashius X]

Ah, but see the problem here is that we can all go look at your profile page and see just how many ratings you have handed out. Take a guess at the dumb to disagree ratio you're rocking right now.

Go ahead and look. While you're at it look at how many of the dumb ratings I've handed out are legitimate.

I "disagree" when I feel as though someone is making a valid point that I don't agree with. "Dumb" is reserved for trolls.

I'm done talking about this though as it's not the place.

 

[gratefuldead]

waiters has very few actual basketball skills

skills:

taking people off the dribble
catch and shoot
sometimes makes plays for others

stuff he's bad at:

defense
shooting off the dribble
fade aways
passing
court awareness
judgement
finishing at the rim
attitude
dunking