Dion Waiters

[Cavatt]

His development has all messed up in my. opinion. He does have a lot of talent. He needs a coach he can trust but I think he went to a worse situation. I think he will figure it out, but it will be on later team. After the end of last season i really thought he figured it out, but maybe it was Delly helping Dion more than i thought

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Maybe it's because I had my homer glasses on but Waiters style of play is simply not built for 5v5 team ball. The sole decider of if he's going to have a good or bad game is if he's hitting his shots.

Whatever potential he may have -- which is open to dispute -- the biggest problem he's had during his entire time in the NBA is between his ears. From what I saw in that Rockets' game, he'd run down the court, go to the three point line, and wave his arms. Now, maybe that was what he was supposed to do on offense, but the point is that there was this visible sag in his body language if he wasn't passed the ball. He wouldn't try for a rebound, would jog back down the court, etc.. But if he got the ball, he'd be Mr. Energy for the next possession or two.

It's as if he believes that he's entitled to a certain level of "respect", and if he believes he's not getting it, he doesn't feel obligated to put forth a great deal of effort otherwise. That's seems to me to be a very fundamental disconnect. Either he straightens that out, and understands that teams owe him nothing other than a paycheck if he's under contract, or he's headed overseas.

 

[The Edge]

you dont have any sense of context do you and you tend to take things a little bit to literally.

Theres was small segment of time when people were frustrated with Kyries team play and attitude.

now a reasonable person would of interpreted that i posted that article to point out that some game analyst had a different take on the game the prior poster was commenting on.

Now i cant speak for other posters but i can speak for myself. the only time I ever said anything about trading kyrie Irving was when his contract was up and there was speculation he wouldnt sign a full deal and I stated if he didnt sign for along term deal they should move him and find players who wanted to be here. I still feel that way. fortunately Kyrie did sign a full contract and the situation never came to fruition.

Ive been pretty consistent in maintaining Waiters had all star level talent but iv never placed him as a tier 1 level talent. ever. The majority of my post on Dion in the past was maintaining he was a starter and should start and if they did so they would have quite a a back court.

projecting Dion as a top 5 shooting guard in a league that doesnt boast that much tier 1 level talent is a reasonable projection.

Is dion there now.. certainly not but he still has that potential and theres been a few hiccups along the way.

Dion just about sucks and thank god we got 2 players who are better than him in that trade.
Hiccups my ass, I loved the dude, but the Cavs are sooo much better off w/out him.

 

[Jscc]

True talent blossoms regardless of the circumstances but the best early indicator is worth ethic.

Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard, and Klay Thompson are all examples of talent blossoming through work ethic. So if Dion wants to be a star, he needs to study those three.

 

[mhi]

5. Dion Waiters, Going Off the Script

Waiters has always been a minus defender, but he’s totally out of his depth in any read-and-react situation in which he and a teammate improvise a switch or some other change in tactics. Watch Waiters and Anthony Morrow blow the switch on some simple off-ball screening action against the Grizz, resulting in a Jeff Green dunk:


Here’s another one from the same game, only this time, Waiters is slow to understand two consecutive switches — leaving everyone in no-man’s-land as the Grizz waltz to a layup:


A similar breakdown involving Waiters and Kyle Singler led to one of Harden’s dagger triples during Houston’s win in Oklahoma City on Sunday. Pinning all the blame on Waiters is unfair, but he’s the common denominator in most of Oklahoma City’s off-ball gaffes. Waiters can defend the ball just fine when he’s dialed in, but jack up the complexity even one notch and he’s a train wreck.

Source: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/t...which-players-are-the-next-free-agent-steals/

 

[David.]

i cant believe we still talk about him, or anthony bennet. who gives a fucking fuck

 

[CHIMOCHIS]

Water is wet

Waiters with another inefficient shooting no defense game

/yawn

No wonder his college coach didn't take him serious

Whoever came up with the idea to draft this scrub needs to be banned from the game

 

[camakazee]

Searching for Josh Smith: Who Are the NBA’s Least Efficient Shooters?

Dion Waiters
Waiters is not only among the worst statistical 3-point shooters in the NBA, he also supplements his impotent blend of volume and inefficiency with an overflowing amount of unearned hubris and terrible defense. What’s not to like?

If you’re looking for Waiters Island on a map, it’s right in the heart of Pacific Proving Grounds, where the U.S. tested nuclear weapons from 1946 to 1962. Nobody is allowed to go there anymore, as the islands are too contaminated — just like the blue archipelago along the perimeter of Waiters’s shot chart.

As it turns out, there can only be one Josh Smith. While none of these four players quite matches the vintage Smith’s bulk brick-launching, I truly believe that Waiters will be the closest thing we’ll have going forward. So if you have a missed-shot fetish like I do, come meet me on Waiters Island. We’ll have the whole place to ourselves.

 

[ThirdWorld]

Cant believe Cavs got Smith and Iman from getting rid of Dion

And OKC isnt even going to the playoffs


AYYYY LMAO

 

[SteelSmack]

Cant believe Cavs got Smith and Iman from getting rid of Dion

And OKC isnt even going to the playoffs


AYYYY LMAO

Don't shortchange that trade, we got JR, Iman and half of Moz for Dion.

 

[Birdy89]

4-21 tonight from the field.

I can't believe Russ let him shoot that much without a fight breaking out.

 

[SteelSmack]

4-21 tonight from the field.

I can't believe Russ let him shoot that much without a fight breaking out.

7 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 5-5 from the free throw line. So although his shot was off (and he didn't refrain from shooting), he found other ways to help the team. Something he desperately needs to do on a regular basis.

 

[bigfoot5415]

Its like we injected cancer into the Thunder when we traded Dion.

 

[SteelSmack]

Its like we injected cancer into the Thunder when we traded Dion.

You say this, but he is/was an upgrade over all of their guards on their bench. The possible exception being Reggie Jackson, who is definitely better on offense, but he plays like Jeff McGinnis on the defensive side. And of course he's gone now.

Plus Dion still has some upside and every once in a while looks like he might still be a useful NBA player. And, what probably is most important to the Thunder, he was a cheap alternative to Reggie Jackson for next year.

 

[bigfoot5415]

You say this, but he is/was an upgrade over all of their guards on their bench. The possible exception being Reggie Jackson, who is definitely better on offense, but he plays like Jeff McGinnis on the defensive side. And of course he's gone now.

Plus Dion still has some upside and every once in a while looks like he might still be a useful NBA player. And, what probably is most important to the Thunder, he was a cheap alternative to Reggie Jackson for next year.

I do agree, but getting Dion & letting Jackson go was a mistake that may cost them a playoff spot. Jackson gave them the 2nd dynamic playmaker for when Durant is out. Dion has the upside, but seems to not want to put the extra work in.