Dion Waiters

[Soda]

It's Chris Grant's and the Cavs' fault Dion couldn't remember his password.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I loved Dion. His toughness was exactly what we needed, until we got 6 or 7 guys who were tougher than him and willing to play within a role.

I know people say that it was a wasted pick, but as Dion likes to say "at the end of the day", it got us to where we are.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Wonder who will get the bigger second contract -- Dion, or Delly?

I vote Delly.

 

[shoes22]

Dion's first tweet in 7 months. I think this is the first either has mentioned each other since the trade. Dion's probably watched all the Cavs playoffs games in the fetal position wishing he was still on the team.

Criticize Dion the player all you want (and lord knows there’s plenty to criticize), but as a guy and human being, Dion’s a good dude and a classy individual.

 

[Kbiz]

I just wanted to thank Dion Waiters for my NBA 2K tear i've been on with OKC this past week.

When Westbrook and KD sit, Dion starts dropping dimes and ayeeeee's all over the place. If it wasn't for his time on the Cavs, i would have know idea how to effectively use him. It's truly deflating to my opponents when i bring Waiters off the bench and he drops double digits in a single quarter, and for that Dion, i salute you!

#bump

 

[Tornicade]

The Anti Dion campaign lives on through Matt Moore
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on...gency-lightning-dont-forget-about-the-thunder

Basically, Singler may not be great, but he's way better than Dion Waiters, the key mistake Oklahoma City made last year.

This is beyond ridiculousness Waiters outperformed Singler in almost every statistical category offensively , defensively and on/off.
even at the three where Dion is 4 inches shorter.


Matt Moore should go back to keeping his jokes on twitter and keeping them out of his articles.

 

[Hydroponic3385]

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

He's gotta bring back the broom to his Summer training to reach the next level.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

This is beyond ridiculousness Waiters outperformed Singler in almost every statistical category offensively , defensively and on/off, even at the three where Dion is 4 inches shorter.

You sure about that?

For all of last season, Singler shot better from 3pt (39% to 29%) than Dion. He had a higher eFG% (49%/45%), was better from the line (77% to 68%), and consequently had a higher TS% (51% to 46%). He also had a higher Treb% (6.0/4.8).

Singler also had a better WS/48 (.56 to .25) He was nine points better in ORtg (104-95), and only one point lower defensively (108-109). Neither was any great shakes in terms of box score =/- per 100 possessions, but Singler was better there was as well: -1.6 v. -3.6 for Dion. And finally, value over replacement player, Singler was 0.2, and Dion was -0.9.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...tedi01&y2=2015&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=#advanced::none

And even if you just limit it to the 26 games Singler was with OKC, and compare that to Dion's time at OKC, he still shot significantly better from 3 (37%-31%), and was better in BPM (-2.6 to -3.8) VORP(-0.1 to -0.7), and WS/48 (.041 to .023)

One of the big issues is that while neither of them is very good, Singler's USG% was 11.0, while Dion's was 21.7. If you're not very good, your team is generally going to be better off if you're not chucking so much.

And btw, if you look at their entire careers, the difference pretty much remains. Singler's career BPM is -1.2, while Dion's is -3.0. Singler's career VORP is +1.4, and Dion's is -1.5.

If someone wanted to quibble about which of those two scrubs is worse, I suppose you could make an argument either way. But saying that it is "beyond ridiculous" to prefer Singler over Dion is itself ridiculous. I frankly agree with that simply because Singler knows he's just a role player, and plays that way. Dion thinks he's a star, tries to play like one, and can't. As a result, you get ridiculously high usage from someone who just isn't that good.

 

[cavsfever]

The Dion Waiters horror show continues. So far this year, Thunder 2-0, Waiters averaging 25 MPG, shooting 35.7% from the field, 20% from 3, not a single foul shot taken so far this year (!), 5.5 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 turnovers. Averaging 5.5 points on 7 shots per game.

I guess defenses are focusing on shutting him down, not many other offensive threats on the Thunder.

 

[shoes22]

With that kind of statline, Dion is just SCREAMING to play for the ‘76ers or Knicks or another bottom feeder team.

 

[Danny Arison]

The Dion Waiters horror show continues. So far this year, Thunder 2-0, Waiters averaging 25 MPG, shooting 35.7% from the field, 20% from 3, not a single foul shot taken so far this year (!), 5.5 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 turnovers. Averaging 5.5 points on 7 shots per game.

I guess defenses are focusing on shutting him down, not many other offensive threats on the Thunder.

You are being Jelly of a 1.7 per, .393 TS and -0.119 WS.

 

[Birdy89]

With that kind of statline, Dion is just SCREAMING to play for the ‘76ers or Knicks or another bottom feeder team.

I said that when he was here. Dion was the kind of guy that was put on this earth to put up big stats on bad teams. It is when he is happiest. He just looks miserable as a bit player on OKC.

I can only imagine what contract extension talks with him will go like. He has one of the biggest gaps in the entire NBA when it comes to actual ability vs. how good he thinks he really is, so I can only imagine how that will translate to contract demands.

The Thunder could well find themselves with their own TT situation on their hands.

 

[shoes22]

I said that when he was here. Dion was the kind of guy that was put on this earth to put up big stats on bad teams. It is when he is happiest. He just looks miserable as a bit player on OKC.

I can only imagine what contract extension talks with him will go like. He has one of the biggest gaps in the entire NBA when it comes to actual ability vs. how good he thinks he really is, so I can only imagine how that will translate to contract demands.

The Thunder could well find themselves with their own TT situation on their hands.

You think the Thunder are clammoring to keep him in the offseason? Why would they? If some team wants to give him a big offer in RFA i’m sure they’d just let him go.

 

[Futuredome]

lol, this board. 14 freaking shots. Give me a break.