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Dwight Howard Saga

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cmstophe said:
They'd be better keeping Harden assuming Harden turns into a star (looks good so far).

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is still monstrous. Gonna have to agree to disagree here because I'm not budging. Westbrook gets way too much hate.
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Keep in mind that saying he's a poor fit isn't necessarily saying he's a bad player. The team would be good but not ideal and Harden is much closer to that. Westbrook is basically the PG version of Josh Smith. That is not a good thing when talking about playing with Dwight Howard.

I really wish Dwight weren't such a douche. If winning were his #1 priority, seeing a line-up featuring Harden, Durant, Anderson, and Howard would be possible, even likely. That would be the best team in the league.
 
Mdog1 said:
Haslem and Miller are much better than we got for LeBron, and Chalmers is a decent point guard who is still young. I'm no saying it is the greatest possible trade that Orlando could make, but if Dwight says trade me to Miami or get nothing then the Magic would be foolish not to try.
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I get your point, but both of those guys aren't really all that good anymore. Haslmen looks like he aged 10 years over the offseason and Mike Miller has been regressing ever isnce Memphis traded him
 
They won't win a ship with Westbrook in the team, the guy is awful, absolute cancer offensively.
 
trade that makes too much sense to ever actually happen:

howard and anderson for griffin, jordan, and gomes (if nec)

with dwight supposedly willing to go to lac, this is the best possible deal for both teams.
 
Mdog1 said:
Haslem and Miller are much better than we got for LeBron, and Chalmers is a decent point guard who is still young. I'm no saying it is the greatest possible trade that Orlando could make, but if Dwight says trade me to Miami or get nothing then the Magic would be foolish not to try.
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Is it? Not getting anything for LeBron netted the Cavs a bad record, high picks, and a relatively flexible cap. It's foolish to think a team would be "competitive" after giving another team in the same division the best possible team in the league for the foreseeable future.


I've said this countless times, but getting nothing sometimes is better than getting garbage in return, or even decent players. Why? Because it usually only delays the inevitable rebuilding process and in your crappy trade scenario, it absolutely destroys ANY hope you had of winning a championship for the next 3-6 years because you just gave them someone to ensure that.
 
ButterMPancakes said:
Is it? Not getting anything for LeBron netted the Cavs a bad record, high picks, and a relatively flexible cap. It's foolish to think a team would be "competitive" after giving another team in the same division the best possible team in the league for the foreseeable future.


I've said this countless times, but getting nothing sometimes is better than getting garbage in return, or even decent players. Why? Because it usually only delays the inevitable rebuilding process and in your crappy trade scenario, it absolutely destroys ANY hope you had of winning a championship for the next 3-6 years because you just gave them someone to ensure that.
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Nope. Why couldn't the decent players you get back be turned into draft picks? Your trying to argue that an asset is bad, that really doesn't make sense. If a GM is too stupid to not convert whatever assets he gets back in a superstar leaving trade into something useful (draft picks, young potential, etc), and instead gets locked into the "treadmill of mediocrity", you are never going to win a 'ship anyway-delay or no delay to the rebuild. An asset is always good in the hands of intelligent management.
 
B3team said:
Nope. Why couldn't the decent players you get back be turned into draft picks? Your trying to argue that an asset is bad, that really doesn't make sense. If a GM is too stupid to not convert whatever assets he gets back in a superstar leaving trade into something useful (draft picks, young potential, etc), and instead gets locked into the "treadmill of mediocrity", you are never going to win a 'ship anyway-delay or no delay to the rebuild. An asset is always good in the hands of intelligent management.
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Because not every team is willing to give up draft picks for mediocre players like Miller & Chalmers and not many teams can give up draft picks for guys like Haslem, whose salary would be harder to match in a trade.

And the team losing Howard wouldn't get stuck in mediocrity, it would freefall into the lottery, right where it should go.


and again, you're trading Dwight to Miami. You're purposely locking yourself out of any championships for the next 5+ years. This isn't like sending him out West to a team like the Clippers, this is sending him to your own division to create a team you wouldn't be able to beat for probably more than 7 years. All for MLE players and below who you'd turn into late picks/let expire and make no real impact.
 
cmstophe said:
They'd be better keeping Harden assuming Harden turns into a star (looks good so far).

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is still monstrous. Gonna have to agree to disagree here because I'm not budging. Westbrook gets way too much hate.
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No joke. I read above that Westbrook is a cancer? I see that he would be a disaster with Dwight. So, one would think that if he were this bad for a team his team itself wouldn't be very good. But, instead they are the best team in the West, by a wide margin. Now either that means that team is so loaded with talent elsewhere and Scotty Brooks is such an amazing coach that they can overcome the harm Westbrook does....or it means Westbrook is a really good basketball player.

So, anyway, the idea that a team would actually turn down a Westbrook/Dwight/Durant trio just because Westbrook has an ego seems effin insane to me. Super young, super athletic, and would rule the West for the next 7 years.
 
I will tell you this Dwight, If you pass on Chicago and OKC (albeit those are REAL possibilities) Dwight will damn his career to hell. Dwight Howard is not THE man on any team. He plays a very special, particular role and is a beast, but he is not the sole option on a championship team. He doesn't have the post savvy of guys like Hakeem, Kareem, Malone etc... Shaq wouldn't have won without Kobe (vise versa). It's a shame that Dwight is so stupid, or perhaps prideful that he cannot share the spotlight with Rose, who in my opinion would be the Kobe to his Shaq.
 
dude chicago is too cold. id head to south beach personally
 
See, now this makes sense. Scenario: Milwaukee clears space, GSW gets Bogut, ORL gets Monta. cbsprt.co/xcjZpl
— Hardwood Paroxysm (@HPbasketball) March 13, 2012
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Details aren't clear, but this would seem to work as long as Orlando is holding on to Anderson. Can't believe I just said that.

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If the story about Dwight wanting to join the heat in free agency is true, than he lost the tiny respect I still had for him. I hate the current NBA. Disgusting.
 
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