Farewell Tyler White Diamonds Zeller

[MirORich]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

A: No way to know that those three guys would have still been there at the picks you want us to have taken them at
B: Zeller complements Waiters and Irving well. This is a guy who is always first down on the break, has great hands, and finishes at a high percentage
C: He is a true center that serves a specific role. He should be able to do that role well and be penciled in for 7-8 years. The other guys are tweeners, some with injury concerns, who don't yet have a defined role.

I'm totally fine with this pick and giving up 33 and 34 to get it done.

Also fine adding just two rookies at a time. Get these guys in waves, not all at once(unless its absolute can't turn down players).

So that's how you justify trading 3 picks in the deepest draft in recent memory?

We took Zeller instead of being able to have all 3 of these guys:

PJIII
Draymond Green
Quincy Miller

I'd much rather have those three players than a white guy that will NEVER be a starting 5 on a contending team.

The worst part is now Grant is going to spend money in free agency, when we could've saved money by just simply using our picks.

 

[TitleTown]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

A: No way to know that those three guys would have still been there at the picks you want us to have taken them at
B: Zeller complements Waiters and Irving well. This is a guy who is always first down on the break, has great hands, and finishes at a high percentage
C: He is a true center that serves a specific role. He should be able to do that role well and be penciled in for 7-8 years. The other guys are tweeners, some with injury concerns, who don't yet have a defined role.

I'm totally fine with this pick and giving up 33 and 34 to get it done.

Also fine adding just two rookies at a time. Get these guys in waves, not all at once(unless its absolute can't turn down players).

What are you talking about?

All three of those guys fell later than 24, 33, 34 respectively. So you're wrong, we absolutely could have had all three if we would have sat on our picks, and taken them when our turn came around.

Give me those three over Zeller ANY day. Zeller will never be a starting 5 on a contending team.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

is this supposed to be that affirmation mumbo-jumbo or are you being serious?

I just saw a Thunder team with Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins go to the Finals.

Yeah, I think Thompson and Zeller can be as productive as those two.

 

[TitleTown]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

I just saw a Thunder team with Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins go to the Finals.

Yeah, I think Thompson and Zeller can be as productive as those two.

I can definitely see Thompson being in the same range as Ibaka, but Zeller will NEVER be able to muscle guys the way Perkins does. Never.

 

[MirORich]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

At pick 17, when the Cavs made the trade, there is no way to know those three guys would still be there at the slots we had(24,33,34).

How hard is that to understand?

Also, way to fixate in on college "names".

We still have massive amounts of first and second round picks in the next 2-3 drafts. Glad they were willing to consolidate picks from this year to go up and grab a guy they see as being a great fit for the style we will be playing with Kyrie, Dion, and TT

What are you talking about?

All three of those guys fell later than 24, 33, 34 respectively. So you're wrong, we absolutely could have had all three if we would have sat on our picks, and taken them when our turn came around.

Give me those three over Zeller ANY day. Zeller will never be a starting 5 on a contending team.

 

[RDriesen]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

I loved it when I heard we traded for Zeller. He is the perfect complement to Tristan. Zeller is an underrated offensive center, IMO.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

I can definitely see Thompson being in the same range as Ibaka, but Zeller will NEVER be able to muscle guys the way Perkins does. Never.

Although Zeller will provide much better basketball skills than Perkins.

 

[MirORich]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

Perkins also straight up disappears for stretches of games and entire games. Zeller is not the muscle player that Perkins is, no kidding. Zeller also has better hands, runs the floor better, has better touch from both 6 ft in and 6 ft out, and finishes better than Perkins.

I can definitely see Thompson being in the same range as Ibaka, but Zeller will NEVER be able to muscle guys the way Perkins does. Never.

 

[RDriesen]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

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Don't think this was posted...

Yeah, I watched that video after we traded for him and then tweeted it, since I couldn't post on here. It is a good video to watch if you haven't watched Zeller play a lot before.

 

[KeyzerSozee]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

I think the dude means (about who will be there) 1. At the moment 17 was taken I don't think anyone saw those three there. 2. It is impossible to say if we did not do that that the guys would have fallen (they could've but us not trading is like the butterfly effect)

It is Monday Morning qb'ing to say well PJIII was going to go at x, etc. Also it should give serious pause that he fell that far. I was very underwhelmed by him and though the rest of the Front Court looked better for Baylor (Acie).

 

[JS33]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

If Zeller was a black guy, people would be thrilled and saying he's going to be a Roy Hibbert. Since he's white, he's Chris Mihm... It's pretty funny really.

And the guy saying we should've taken Perry Jones, Quincy Miller, and Draymond Green... perhaps we should just not pay a General Manager or scouts? Dan Gilbert can just listen to ESPN and look at Chad Ford's mock drafts to make his choices. Disregard character, work ethic, how they fit with the staff and players, etc... If they were popular in college grab them!

I mean these comments are expected, they're just a little sad.

 

[D10S]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

Could Zeller develop enough to play a stretch-4 role for periods of time in the future?

 

[Baseline Runner]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

Those turnaround hook shots that he does look really awkward. Maybe that is his signature move but damn that is ugly.

 

[Meticode]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

I like this trade. I think Zeller is worth more than those 3 picks could've gotten us. i can't wait for Zeller to hit a jumper then I can yell, "Z!" again.

 

[Ohio]

Re: 17th Pick - Tyler Zeller

So..we didnt wanna give up all our picks to move up to #2 to get Beal or MKG.

But we did to move to #17 to get Zeller.

LOL. This draft was a complete and total failure. Not sure how you can see it otherwise. Could have gotten Waiters at 7. Should have traded up to #2 regardless.