Game 22 -|- Cavs @ Magic -|- Dec. 13, 2013 @ 7 PM EST

[MD13]

I do see that he shrinks the floor. Everyone sees it.

I just don't think it's a big enough problem to then throw away almost everything else for a guy who can give them that ONE thing. Bennett starts playing better, then I'm all for it. But right now, for the sole sake of floor spacing, I just don't think it's a wise move.

And I wish our coaches would get in his ear and just start telling him to trust the shot. He seems like the type of guy who is terrified of making the wrong play, so much so that even when it's the right play, he'd rather play it safe.

Now, I'll take that over some goof like Nick Young, who doesn't give a shit about the right play ever, but he needs more confidence, and I have no idea why he lost it in the first place.

That said, the screen cap howler took looks bad to begin with. He's got two guys behind him, Kyrie and Miles, effectively eliminating two offensive players from the play, One of them, preferably Kyrie, needs to be heading down the corner and I have no idea why Gee is taking a step in-wards right at that point.

Of course, it's only one cap so maybe gee was about to run the base-line and Miles was gonna head to his corner. Dunno.

I usually see a set like this a lot actually. Off the top of my head, it seems like Kyrie never drifts down into the corner unless it's to throw an entry pass to Bynum, and Gee usually seems to be on the weakside corner. Granted, this is off the top of my head so I could be wrong. If you hit play, TT swings the ball back to Irving and the possession ends with a pick and roll Irving jumper. I wanna stress how common this particular set is, it seems to happen every single time TT touches the ball at the top of the key when our starting lineup is on the floor.

 

[RchfldCavRaised]

I usually see a set like this a lot actually. Off the top of my head, it seems like Kyrie never drifts down into the corner unless it's to throw an entry pass to Bynum, and Gee usually seems to be on the weakside corner. Granted, this is off the top of my head so I could be wrong. If you hit play, TT swings the ball back to Irving and the possession ends with a pick and roll Irving jumper. I wanna stress how common this particular set is, it seems to happen every single time TT touches the ball at the top of the key when our starting lineup is on the floor.

Some good discussion in here man. Im sitting here feeling like Im back breaking down film with my coach during my senior year.

Look up and my wife is standing in the doorway to my office, PISSED because its after 10pm now and I promised her Cheesecake factory as soon as the Cavs game ended

Later yall

 

[MD13]

Here's another situation of the same set a minute later, same exact defense from the magic. Bynum didn't stand a chance the way they were guarding him with their 3 and 4 always with one foot in the paint whenever he touched the ball.

edit: Possession ended with TT trying to force a bounce pass to Bynum which got picked off.

 

[ice cream man]

But even Andy can hit that jumper. And TT plays more like a center anyway. He should be with the 2nd unit and Andy should be with the first. That way, our starting unit has better ball movement, and TT likely gets more opportunities to score with the 2nd unit.

 

[Rich]

Here's another situation of the same set a minute later, same exact defense from the magic. Bynum didn't stand a chance the way they were guarding him with their 3 and 4 always with one foot in the paint whenever he touched the ball.

edit: Possession ended with TT trying to force a bounce pass to Bynum which got picked off.

This is where a coach needs to step in or something. Kyrie needs to go to that corner, or closer to it, take the pass from TT, and then hit Bynum,as he will now have his man sealed above the box You should never be allowed to play a true Center by fronting him, because decent ball movement and guys going to the right spots will mean you're giving him a dunk.

 

[MD13]

But even Andy can hit that jumper. And TT plays more like a center anyway. He should be with the 2nd unit and Andy should be with the first. That way, our starting unit has better ball movement, and TT likely gets more opportunities to score with the 2nd unit.

When Andy plays with Bynum later, there's actually a play where they defend them the same way and Andy nails an 18 foot J.

 

[OptimusPrime]

If Bynum is only playing 20 minutes a night anyway, you might as well put Bennett out there for those minutes at the 4. Tristan will still get plenty of minutes and he can play the low post to Andy's high post.

 

[The Process God]

People like Dion are born with that dog in them, you can't learn that. Blake Griffin is famous for being a fake tough guy, but you really wouldn't want to piss off Dion, he's a bad man.

Side note: Is it just me or is Kyrie actually a shorter Kobe Bryant with better handles? Those quick pull up jumpers he takes from anywhere on the court look familiar...

He's like Kobe Bryant meets Isaiah Thomas. He's even half-way between their heights.

 

[Lionheart]

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Forward to 2:07 to Dion ready to throwdown against Nicholson.

 

[CleveRocks]

Couldn't resist could you?

Missed the game for various reason. Catch the vast majority of them.

The problem is you act like spacing the floor is the only aspect of basketball that is important. What about all of the other things that Tristan excels at that Bennett doesn't? We become a weaker team defensively. We become a shorter team. We become a weaker rebounding team. Do these not matter?

And as for spacing the floor, you actually have to, you know, make shots. Who the hell is going to respect Anthony Bennett shooting jumpers at this point?

And I'm looking at the play-by-play and I see we were losing the entire game, until the 8 minute mark, when Thompson came back in and played along side of Varejao. Not Bennett spacing the floor. Not Earl Clark either. From that point on, we dominated. Now I do not understand how it can work for the final 8 minutes of the fourth, when the game is on the line, but not the 1st 8 minutes of the 1st.

We dominated because we shut down orlando defensively, not because our offensive pace improved. Andy, Dion, Delly and TT, are clearly hustling on every posession. Bennett is doing ok defensively for a rookie, but he is not close to Tristan or Andy.

I like Bennett with Bynum because the game is more deliberate, and Bynum has to get the full attention of the opposing bigs. Eventually Bennett's shooting will return, and he will present a match up problem. you could play him with Clark(or eventually with Karasev) and CJ and Kryie to create better spacing with Bynum...The important thing is to get some semblence of defense out of that crew...

 

[Tornicade]

Here's another situation of the same set a minute later, same exact defense from the magic. Bynum didn't stand a chance the way they were guarding him with their 3 and 4 always with one foot in the paint whenever he touched the ball.

edit: Possession ended with TT trying to force a bounce pass to Bynum which got picked off.

Two dribbles to the left and a cut by kyrie and you got kyrie with a straight shot to the basket and gee or miles coming around to bail tristan out if there no pass.

Instead Tristan goes straight down the middle where the defense is waiting and Kyrie comes toward him instead of hitting the now weakside seam.

The play starts with tristan.. although where the team is now theres no guarantee kyrie goes to the rim without the ball. Either way Kyrie should of been hitting the key . this would give him a shot or open up bynum without forcing it to him

 

[Frank Stallone]

Can't find the post to quote, but the Blake Griffin comment is spot on. He is a bitch. His attitude is so fake and pathetic. To top it off I am sick of his schtick. Those dumb commercials and his not-so-funny-anymore dry humor have me disliking him. He also gets too much credit because of his dunking.

Dion has a real fight in him. Blake is fake. If people would not have got in his way, I bet he would've just jawed with Andy after shoving him, Dion on the other hand would've gone after Nicholson.

What I want(ed) to see is (was) Dion channel that anger and go off. 1) he had already gone off and 2) the game was essentially over, but I wanna see that happen early on or in the middle of the game. I LOVE that passion.

 

[The Oi]

Has Dion ever proven that he's a real hard ass that would actually punch someone in the jaw? Thus far, all I've seen is him yelling at Griffin up close and Nicholson from about ten feet away.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Has Dion ever proven that he's a real hard ass that would actually punch someone in the jaw? Thus far, all I've seen is him yelling at Griffin up close and Nicholson from about ten feet away.

Really?

 

[Carter Rodriguez]

The floor spacer, Anthony Bennett, is still shooting 26% from the field.

Yeah, I don't think teams are gonna worry too much yet. Tristan's so clearly the better option to both start and get minutes its not even funny