Gordon suspension reduced to 10, 12 if convicted of DWI

[Mac]

You obviously are oblivious then.

He needs help with how to be an adult. You know, not drive around with guys that have weed on them while you speed up and down the highway. Realizing that you are a professional athlete and you have earned plenty of enough money to pay for a driver so you don't get a DUI/DWI while you party on a holiday weekend with heightened police presence while you were already blasted for speeding with pot holding friends while being under NFL investigation and your career hangs in the balance, and that in order to keep earning a huge paycheck for being an unreal football player, you have to learn from your past mistakes and STOP SMOKING WEED, that nearly cost you a chance of even playing football at this level as you were kicked out of two schools, having to enter the supplemental draft, costing yourself millions of guaranteed dollars bc you weren't a first rounder, put on the watch list by the NFL, in which he was suspended for not knowing what he could and couldn't take and then proceed to either smoke more weed or be around people that smoke weed. All the while just watching guaranteed millions continue to float away from your bank account because you are too dumb to change your lifestyle to adjust the rules that are present, regardless of the social relevance of said subject.

What are you not understanding about that?

 

[MoFlo]

What help does he need? I'm still trying to figure that out.

He's been suspended, reprimanded, kicked out of school, etc for smoking weed. Yet, he still puts himself in stupid situations, 100% aware that he could eventually lose his job for good over it.

Either he doesn't care, in which case he needs help in regards to growing up & realizing he's about to lose his career.. or (if the second hand smoke story isn't true) he has a serious addiction problem that will cost him his career & needs help to clean himself up.

The harshness of the penalty is irrelevant. There's absolutely no excuse to keep putting yourself in these situations when you know the consequences of them, especially when they're as harsh as they are.

 

[SixPACK]

Shortest answer possible: He needs to grow the fuck up.

This kid could be throwing away millions upon millions of dollars b/c he wants to take 1 hit off of a blunt and dominate some Cheesy Gordita Crunches. Or even if this second hand smoke thing is true, if you can't part with your friends, LEAVE when they want to smoke. It's not hard. You are going to be a superstar in the NFL. Go get drunk with Haden, Delly and Slider.

You make your friends, don't let your friends make you.

 

[Norm]

You obviously are oblivious then.

He needs help with how to be an adult. [I]You know, not drive around with guys that have weed on them while you speed up and down the highway. Realizing that you are a professional athlete and you have earned plenty of enough money to pay for a driver so you don't get a DUI/DWI while you party on a holiday weekend with heightened police presence while you were already blasted for speeding with pot holding friends while being under NFL investigation and your career hangs in the balance, and that in order to keep earning a huge paycheck for being an unreal football player, you have to learn from your past mistakes and STOP SMOKING WEED, that nearly cost you a chance of even playing football at this level as you were kicked out of two schools, having to enter the supplemental draft, costing yourself millions of guaranteed dollars bc you weren't a first rounder, put on the watch list by the NFL, in which he was suspended for not knowing what he could and couldn't take and then proceed to either smoke more weed or be around people that smoke weed[/I]. All the while just watching guaranteed millions continue to float away from your bank account because you are too dumb to change your lifestyle to adjust the rules that are present, regardless of the social relevance of said subject.

What are you not understanding about that?

I nominate this for run-on sentence of the year.

 

[theSTEREO.]

I don't post in too many Browns threads, but I don't think people are arguing the same argument.

Mar doesn't seem to think that Josh Gordon should feel bad about smoking weed. He may be right... when you talk about it completely separately from football. One can argue the merits and pitfalls of allowing alcohol use but not weed all day long, etc.

What everyone else seems to be saying is whether or not you think weed should or should not be a banned substance, fact remains is that it is. And right now it seems that Gordon is putting his use of it above his football team. If he values smoking more than football, no problem. Leave the NFL. But he has a contractual obligation for millions and millions of dollars to NOT do exactly that, yet he does. He has a social obligation to millions of fans who pay money every week, month, year to buy his jersey, buy tickets to see him, buy NFL Sunday Ticket when they live out of town, when they fill their cars with gas and drive an hour and pay to park and eat to watch him. And he is betraying that trust.

I also understand that it seems as though in this particular instance, he may not have been rightfully accused based on the evidence. But the prior history is still an issue.

Yes, he has every right to value and choose smoking over football. And if he does, he needs to leave football to do so. Otherwise he is betraying professional, social, contractual and legal obligations, and in turn, robbing his team, his league, and his fans either directly or indirectly.

 

[bob2the2nd]

I nominate this for run-on sentence of the year.

Beat me to it.

 

[bushwick_bill]

I love this dude pops a Molly gets 4 games and Ray Rice still only gets two games...

XNARD, Calif. -- The NFL has suspended Dallas Cowboys cornerback Orlando Scandrick for the first four games of the season, the league announced Tuesday.

Scandrick tested positive for MDMA, which is also known as Ecstasy or Molly, league sources told ESPN's Ed Werder. He became the 21st player of 104 suspended for performance-enhancing drugs to test positive for MDMA.

Sources told Werder that the violation occurred while Scandrick was vacationing in Mexico with an ex-girlfriend, whom he has claimed persuaded him to add a substance he didn't realize was on the banned list into a cocktail they were drinking.

According to a source with knowledge of the situation, Scandrick failed a drug test in April and appealed its findings. The league rendered its decision Monday. He will lose approximately $1 million through four missed game checks and a signing bonus repayment.

In a statement released through his agent, Ron Slavin, Scandrick insisted he did not knowingly take a banned substance.

"I would like to apologize to my children, my family, the Jones family, my coaches, my teammates and my fans," Scandrick said in the statement. "Failing a drug test is far out of my character, and although I never knowingly took a performance-enhancing drug/banned stimulant while on vacation in Mexico, I take full responsibility for what goes in my body and more importantly for the embarrassment of a failed drug test. It's my goal by issuing this statement to clear my name and more importantly to be judged by what happens to me in the future.

"I hope that my family, my Cowboys football family and all my fans can forgive me for this situation. I look forward to a successful 2014 season."

He will be eligible to return to the active roster on Sept. 29. Scandrick also can participate in all preseason practices and games.

Scandrick, a seven-year veteran, is coming off the best season of his career. He won the starting job after Morris Claiborne was injured during the preseason and performed well, serving as a bright spot on a unit that ranked last in the league in total defense. Scandrick and Claiborne, who missed the preseason opener due to tendinitis in his right knee, were competing for a starting job again this summer.

Slavin blamed the suspension on the NFL and NFL Players Association's failure to come to an agreement on human growth hormone testing, which has been a point of contention since a new collective bargaining agreement was passed in 2011.

"I do not excuse Orlando having tested positive for a banned stimulant," Slavin said in a statement. "The current rules are what they are, and a player is responsible for what is in his body. However, I would like it known that it is my understanding that if the current proposed agreement related to HGH testing would have already been instituted, a very significant percentage of the players receiving 'PED' suspensions since the new CBA took effect would not have been suspended. Instead, these players, under the proposed new policy, would have been subjected to the Substance Abuse Policy and Program.

"More than 80 missed games, millions of dollars in fines and bonus repayments have been issued because the NFLPA and NFL cannot come to an agreement. The only people who are losing in this standoff are the players and fans."

The last known Cowboys player to be suspended for violation of the NFL's substance abuse policy was defensive back Marcus Coleman, who was released in October of the 2006 season after he served a four-game suspension and was arrested on suspicion of driving while intoxicated.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story...pended-four-games-performance-enhancing-drugs


Gordon is gone for the year. He has to be...

 

[Norm]

He's been suspended, reprimanded, kicked out of school, etc for smoking weed. Yet, he still puts himself in stupid situations, 100% aware that he could eventually lose his job for good over it.

Either he doesn't care, in which case he needs help in regards to growing up & realizing he's about to lose his career.. or (if the second hand smoke story isn't true) he has a serious addiction problem that will cost him his career & needs help to clean himself up.

The harshness of the penalty is irrelevant. There's absolutely no excuse to keep putting yourself in these situations when you know the consequences of them, especially when they're as harsh as they are.

I'm no expert on addiction. Never had a chemical addiction in my life. Currently, I have 5 immediate members of my life with a chemical addiction, all with varying levels.

They don't look at the consequences when they fuck up. They live in the moment when they do them or the very near future for themselves and what they can do for them, not anything around them or who they may be hurting with their actions. The most recent one in my life has decided to seek help before things get bad, at least worse than what they are. That's the recurring theme in addicts I've seen over the years, they don't believe their actions hurt anyone but themselves. They don't realize the actions they take are hurting or impactful in others around them. Those addicted may be aware of the consequences at one point or another, but they don't truly understand them until shit hits the fan. Mainly, when it's too late.

Just my take.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Wait, did that guy just say he didn't knowingly take ecstasy? That seems like a hell of an accident.

 

[Tlyons]

This dude needs somebody who he really respects to tell him he is fucking up big time. The problem is that person probably smokes as muchas Gordon.

 

[bushwick_bill]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/13/no-decision-yet-on-josh-gordon/

Eight days ago, Josh Gordon’s appeal hearing ended. Hearing officer Harold Henderson has not yet issued a decision.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the news is there is no news. No update, no development, no ruling.

The good news is that Gordon remains available to play until Henderson implements the suspension. The bad news is that, if Henderson eventually upholds the one-year suspension, Gordon will be gone for a full year. Not 16 games; a full year. If a decision comes today, Gordon becomes instantly banished until August 13, 2015 at the earliest.

The Browns should be upset. If the suspension, levied before the draft, had been resolved expeditiously, Gordon would have been back for most of the 2015 offseason program. Now, he’ll miss the full 2015 offseason, much of training camp, and at least one preseason game before he can even re-enter the building.

Of course, this assumes that Gordon will pass up to 120 drug tests during the 12 months of his suspension. If he doesn’t, it will be difficult for Gordon to be reinstated in time for the start of the 2015 offseason, if ever.

Henderson is required to issue a ruling within a “reasonable time” after the conclusion of the hearing. The term “reasonable time” doesn’t have a specific number attached to it. In this case, it would have been far more reasonable and fair to resolve the case months ago.

And it ultimately would be entirely reasonable and fair to not suspend Gordon at all.

I love this comment:

Lol Dan Patrick made the comment this morning that the NBA sold the Clippers faster than the NFL resolved the Josh Gordon situation.

Imagine that, the NBA was competent enough to do a billion dollar deal in the time the NFL can’t resolve a weed violation.

 

[Jack Brickman]

George R.R. Martin is going to finish Winds of Winter before this shit gets resolved.

 

[The Oi]

Rick and the gang are gonna find Sophia before this shit gets resolved.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Rick and the gang are gonna find Sophia before this shit gets resolved.

They already did, although this situation was also boring as hell and will probably end up about as well for everyone involved.

 

[col63onel]

According to 92.3, Haslem came out during practice, talked with Gordon, then Pettine, then Farmer. This was during drills, so they speculated that perhaps Haslem was just given some info.