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It's in response to someone else's absurd comments. It's meant in hyperbole to show them the error of their thinking.

I guess because no one died it's better. According to you. Although England has so many knifings they want to ban kitchen knifes.

Of course it's better! Everyone survived. These attacks are never a good thing, but I'd have taken a knifing with no casualties over Newtown.

You wouldn't?
 
It was aimed at Keys who wants multiple guns taxed because his in laws buy too many guns and don't stop even though they are broke.

Automatic weapons are illegal... Did someone use an automatic weapon in a crime recently that was legal and registered that I am not aware of? Why are you bringing them up then?

Your the guy who wouldn't agree with me saying that we all believe in SOME form on gun control, because we all think people shouldn't be owning missile launchers.

That's when I gave up on this thread, as long as your dominating the conversation.
 
but in countries that have banned guns they have seen a major decrease in gun violence.

Britain is the the most violent nation in Europe. They're more violent than the US. Not helping your point. Sure they have less gun crime. But people just use knives and illegal guns now.
 
Britain is the the most violent nation in Europe. They're more violent than the US. Not helping your point. Sure they have less gun crime. But people just use knives and illegal guns now.

My point was that banning guns does seem to be effective at removing them when many think it would do nothing. Thought you would be able to tell since that post was in direct response to someone questioning the subject.
 
Of course it's better! Everyone survived. These attacks are never a good thing, but I'd have taken a knifing with no casualties over Newtown.

You wouldn't?

I'd take armed guards in the schools who make these events non issues. How many violent bank robberies are there in the US each year.

I guess your money is more important than our kids.

I went to a school with an armed cop. No problems ever.
 
My point was that banning guns does seem to be effective at removing them when many think it would do nothing.

Banning guns is effective in removing them...

Ok. Profound statement.
 
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Your the guy who wouldn't agree with me saying that we all believe in SOME form on gun control, because we all think people shouldn't be owning missile launchers.

That's when I gave up on this thread, as long as your dominating the conversation.


Because you're not educated on what you speak and it's annoying. It's like me asking if you think people should be allowed to make a death threat and be protected under the first. Completely useless argument. Missile launchers aren't guns. They're heavy ordinance. They have their own laws completely separate from guns. The point of the second though was for the citizens to always be as armed as any military from a fire arms perspective. This where it gets dicey because infantry men now carry....

I'm not asking for the Ordinance laws to be repealed.

So maybe you can let this die. Or start an Ordinance Control topic. Just a heads up though, it's already controlled. Heavily.
 
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I'd take armed guards in the schools who make these events non issues. How many violent bank robberies are there in the US each year.

I guess your money is more important than our kids.

I went to a school with an armed cop. No problems ever.

You're completely changing the subject because you don't have an answer. Instead you just insult me claiming I feel money is more important than children. Why so hostile?
 
Banning guns is effective in removing them...

Ok.

I don't get it. Are you sarcastically disagreeing? That was my whole point though. Many think banning guns would do nothing to get them off the streets. I said we can never be certain how it would work, but in countries that did ban guns gun violence decreased.
 
Banning guns is effective in removing them...

Ok.
Can't you just calm down and put all your thoughts into one post? I know you understand the points made, they are all pretty valid.

Banning guns does help reducing the amout of gun related crimes, which are more harmful than knives or anything else. The UK is a total mess right now, even though their economy is somewhat good, life is really difficult and expensive. Also, they are as close to the US as you'll find in the world (with Canada)

It's funny you want armed guards in school (and everywhere else) but want your government to leave you alone and are scared of tyranny. It does sound to me like putting armed guards everywhere makes a government more powerful...
 
You're completely changing the subject because you don't have an answer. Instead you just insult me claiming I feel money is more important than children. Why so hostile?

If people were allowed to carry in these "gun free zones" do you see these incidents happening? 1/3 of the states have laws prohibiting them. Guess how many people go on mass shootings in these states.

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Ok, I just read about well regulated militia, that I was not aware of, but I am not quite sure I get all of it. To own a gun, you were supposed to take training and be available to defend the country? Sounds like a pretty good idea, at that time, to me.

I don't buy the "self defense" argument either. What happens if you come from a drink with some friends in the middle of the night and find me with your wife naked on the couch (not trying to offend anybody here)? Would the thought of going to your room, take that gun and point it a me not even cross your mind? Most wouldn't pull the trigger, but some would. Now let's say I happen to carry a gun as well, what happens? This has more much chance of happening as somebody getting inside your home with a gun and shoot somebody.

You don't buy it?? :chuckles: Well, I wasn't trying to sell it, so we're all good. You're naivity is a bit comical, I do have to say. Then again, I remember you writing you don't lock your doors, either, so there's that thing that brings me right back to Darwin's Theory of Evolution, and you, sir, must be one lucky little devil to have been spared thus far. Before I get to your cheating wife scenario, let me just tell you that I grew up in Cleveland. Not a suburb with a white picket fence and green acres like Dover, Ohio. But, the heart of Cleveland. I came home from school one day when I was in 2nd grade to a busted down door and a looted home. I was horrified. Our home was trashed and all our valuables, and even some invaluables, were gone. The very next day, my Mom bought us our first Doberman and enrolled me in wrestling. Not that a second grader learning how to wrestle was gonna do any good, but it needed to be done for my own confidence/peace of mind. My Mom then went out and bought a .38. Would you believe almost a month to the day that same asshole came back? Even with a Dobie in the house, he felt we were an easy target. Small child and a single Mother, he broke in while I was walking our dog and my Mom was home alone. I'm sure he had bad intentions, much worse than just plain old burglary. With a solid oak door he found entry a little difficult and by the time he got in, my Mom was standing there staring at our downstairs neighbor's son. He just turned 18. We always knew he was a punk, but never thought he was a dumbfuck, too. She was shaking like a leaf in a windstorm, but that asshole was a lot more scared than she was. He went to jail, all in one piece mind you, and was later charged with robbing not only our home, but a couple others a few local businesses, as well.

First off, in your cheating wife scenario, she would never be so stupid. But, no, I wouldn't shoot ya. I'd take much more pleasure out of using my hands to remove you from my house. She wouldn't be far behind you, either. You see, as just being some normal jackass, you pose no threat to my life. You're just a douchebag. I'm not a criminal, you see. I would never shoot someone that isn't posing an immediate threat to mine or my families life. It's just that simple.
 
I don't get it. Are you sarcastically disagreeing? That was my whole point though. Many think banning guns would do nothing to get them off the streets. I said we can never be certain how it would work, but in countries that did ban guns gun violence decreased.

Did violence overall decrease?
 
It's funny you want armed guards in school (and everywhere else) but want your government to leave you alone and are scared of tyranny. It does sound to me like putting armed guards everywhere makes a government more powerful...

If the citizens have no guns, but the government has them, is that not a police state? Do you not live in a police state? Do you not have armed guards around your cities? I know when I was there the cops carried automatic weapons. I'm ok with it just like you are. Except in my case I'm on the same level as my government. Which is the purpose of the second amendment.
 
There's a big difference between substances that can be addictive and abused and something like a gun. We can't say for sure how it would work, but in countries that have banned guns they have seen a major decrease in gun violence.

It's not about criminals being afraid to break the law, it's about making it harder for them to get guns. Now all someone needs to do is show up at a gun show and leave with a weapon.

They saw a decrease in gun violence coupled with an increase in violent crime. The gun show loopholes have to be resolved. I'm not against legitimate means to help curb irresponsible gun ownership.
 

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