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Gordon turned 24 in April. I would sign him to a 5 year deal the team could get out of easily.
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Why? His contract is automatically extended because of the suspension at its previous level.
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Bet he'd be REALLY interested in that.
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If the Browns were going to get rid of Gordon, it would have happened a long time ago. They're too far into this thing to dump him now for a variety of reasons.
1) He's still very young
2) Still on a rookie contract
3) Proven All-Pro ability at WR (In spite of Campbell and Weeden)
4) Has shown the potential and ability to be the best WR in football
Obviously the substance abuse problem is an issue, but to my knowledge he's never been a cancer in the locker room. He seems to be pretty well liked amongst his teammates. He's either going to straighten himself out or be completely out of the league in a year or two. Might as well see what happens at this point.
1) He's still very young
2) Still on a rookie contract
3) Proven All-Pro ability at WR (In spite of Campbell and Weeden)
4) Has shown the potential and ability to be the best WR in football
Obviously the substance abuse problem is an issue, but to my knowledge he's never been a cancer in the locker room. He seems to be pretty well liked amongst his teammates. He's either going to straighten himself out or be completely out of the league in a year or two. Might as well see what happens at this point.
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I'd punt the last year of his rookie deal and pay him next season in exchange for a long term deal with terms that make it painless for the team to cut him in the event of any antics.
Kelvin Benjamin and Jordy Nelson are both out for the year after non-contact injuries. Players want long term security.
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I see two potential reasons:
1) Gordon thinks very highly of himself; I see him thinking he can still pull huge money if he has a bounce-back season.
2) People with issues like his tend to blame others for their problems. I think what b00bie is hinting at is Gordon doesn't feel like the Browns have "been there" for him like he thinks they should be.
This is all not to mention that Gordon grieved his contract not tolling for another year, which means he wants to get to free agency sooner rather than later. Presumably, due to the above points.
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He's locked into the next two seasons at that price, so why not add three more?
A 5-year deal puts him near 30 when he's looking to sign his next one...and he's not going to get nearly as much if he hits free agency when he's actually in his prime.
Pretty simple, from his end. That's a non-starter.
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A long-term deal that's easy for the Browns to get out of does Gordon little-to-no good. Maybe he gets paid more for a year and proves himself to be the player everyone knows he can be. Then, the Browns have him locked into a cheap contract for 4 more seasons and Gordon is screwed.
If Gordon doesn't right the ship, the Browns can dump him at any time with likely no penalty. It takes away Gordon's ability to cash in. If Gordon's not suspended, he's one of the best receivers in the league. The Browns know it. Gordon knows it. 31 other NFL teams know it. Two years from now, Gordon will either be a top-5 WR in the league or be suspended indefinitely. Probably not an in-between with the guy, and I'm sure his agent knows this as well.
If Gordon doesn't right the ship, the Browns can dump him at any time with likely no penalty. It takes away Gordon's ability to cash in. If Gordon's not suspended, he's one of the best receivers in the league. The Browns know it. Gordon knows it. 31 other NFL teams know it. Two years from now, Gordon will either be a top-5 WR in the league or be suspended indefinitely. Probably not an in-between with the guy, and I'm sure his agent knows this as well.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...for-reinstatement/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Report: Josh Gordon applies to the league for reinstatement
New Browns coach Hue Jackson has a reputation for explosive offense, and for reaching people others cannot.
He may have a chance to kill two birds with one stone, as one of his new team’s best players is taking steps toward a return.
According to Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com, suspended Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon has applied for reinstatement from his indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league’s substance abuse policy.
Gordon was suspended on Feb. 3, 2015 for his third violation of the league’s policy, and by rule could apply for reinstatement within 60 days of the anniversary of the suspension. The league has a 60-day window to act on the application.
Gordon failed a test for alcohol after the 2014 season, which came after a 10-game suspension following his July 2014 DWI arrest.
He will interview with the league’s medical director, and demonstrate that his track record of substance abuse is behind him.
“To be reinstated, a player must demonstrate sustained abstinence,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. “In support of their applications, players generally put forward verifiable testing records and/or submit to periodic NFL testing during the banishment period.”
Before his alcohol-related suspensions, Gordon had a history of marijuana-related suspensions in college.
If he’s committed to playing in the NFL, Gordon has proven he can be one of its best players. He led the league in receiving yards in 2013 despite playing in just 14 games.
Jackson was noncommittal when asked about Gordon last week.
“What I’m anxious to do is evaluate him just like we’re going to evaluate every player on our roster and see if they are the right fit for the Cleveland Browns,” Jackson said. “That’s what we have to do with every player, whether that’s Josh Gordon to whoever the last guy is on the roster.”
If the league clears him, he’d offer Jackson a much better chance to turn things around. But as Gordon has proven in his career, assuming eligibility would be a mistake.
Report: Josh Gordon applies to the league for reinstatement
New Browns coach Hue Jackson has a reputation for explosive offense, and for reaching people others cannot.
He may have a chance to kill two birds with one stone, as one of his new team’s best players is taking steps toward a return.
According to Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com, suspended Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon has applied for reinstatement from his indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league’s substance abuse policy.
Gordon was suspended on Feb. 3, 2015 for his third violation of the league’s policy, and by rule could apply for reinstatement within 60 days of the anniversary of the suspension. The league has a 60-day window to act on the application.
Gordon failed a test for alcohol after the 2014 season, which came after a 10-game suspension following his July 2014 DWI arrest.
He will interview with the league’s medical director, and demonstrate that his track record of substance abuse is behind him.
“To be reinstated, a player must demonstrate sustained abstinence,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. “In support of their applications, players generally put forward verifiable testing records and/or submit to periodic NFL testing during the banishment period.”
Before his alcohol-related suspensions, Gordon had a history of marijuana-related suspensions in college.
If he’s committed to playing in the NFL, Gordon has proven he can be one of its best players. He led the league in receiving yards in 2013 despite playing in just 14 games.
Jackson was noncommittal when asked about Gordon last week.
“What I’m anxious to do is evaluate him just like we’re going to evaluate every player on our roster and see if they are the right fit for the Cleveland Browns,” Jackson said. “That’s what we have to do with every player, whether that’s Josh Gordon to whoever the last guy is on the roster.”
If the league clears him, he’d offer Jackson a much better chance to turn things around. But as Gordon has proven in his career, assuming eligibility would be a mistake.
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Honestly doesn't really matter.
Offseason conditioning programs generally start in mid-to-late March, correct? That will be the 60 days.
Also, within 45 days, he meets with the Dr.'s, so he should know before the full 60.
They also didn't state the date, so it could be today, last week, who knows. No matter what, it works out to where he will be available when team activities start.
Offseason conditioning programs generally start in mid-to-late March, correct? That will be the 60 days.
Also, within 45 days, he meets with the Dr.'s, so he should know before the full 60.
They also didn't state the date, so it could be today, last week, who knows. No matter what, it works out to where he will be available when team activities start.