Kendrick Perkins - Canton's Enforcer

[AZCavs]

Fun Fact: Kendrick Perkins and LeBron (with Leon Powe) were teammates on the Oakland Soldiers in AAU.

 

[oracio]

View: https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/568528904635490304

Now Cavs should really get him...

 

[citizentino]

Benefit of signing Kendrick Perkins: If he plays for us, he can't injure any of our bigs with his dirty fouls.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Duck Hunt.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Would be perfect for us. Mozgov foul protection. Best move on the board for us at the moment. I really hope we can snag him.

 

[jlegg21]

We cant really get Perk and Ray Allen though.
Any chance we would actually release James Jones? I know the answer is probably not, but how do we secure two spots?

Jones or Miller go from 'sore' to 'injured reserve' and sitting on the bench in a suit instead of a jersey...

 

[Simmy]

Bring him in and then leave him alone in an empty room with JR on a wintery Cleveland evening. We'll either be witness to something magical and inspirational or a psychological meltdown of cataclysmic proportions.

Although if the latter reigns supreme, he'll only place second in roll-of-the-dice Cavs FO errors of recent past behind the memorable Andrew Bynum.

 

[WorldBoFree]

View: https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/568528904635490304

Now Cavs should really get him...

Exactly why the Cavs shouldn't get him. If Perkins steals minutes from any of their other bigs, its a WIN for the Cavs.

Perkins is absolutely awful.

 

[Sir John]

Straight off, I will grant that Perkins is probably a marginal upgrade over Haywood, who is a contract masquerading as a player.

(FYI, that is being generous as by some metrics such as VORP, Perkins is worse than Haywood.)

But he's far worse than Dalembert, by way of comparison (what is the deal with him, by the way?).

Perkins gives about 1% better rim protection than Haywood. But he's actually a worse shot-blocker, adjust per 36 minutes.

Be aware, too, that by some metrics such as wins produced and VORP, Perkins COSTS a team wins when he's on the floor. That is to say: when he plays, his team increases the likelihood of losing.

When it gets right down to it, adding Perkins is closer in-kind to being a Haywood-level player than a truly useful one.

 

[MRMsix6]

Straight off, I will grant that Perkins is probably a marginal upgrade over Haywood, who is a contract masquerading as a player.

(FYI, that is being generous as by some metrics such as VORP, Perkins is worse than Haywood.)

But he's far worse than Dalembert, by way of comparison (what is the deal with him, by the way?).

Perkins gives about 1% better rim protection than Haywood. But he's actually a worse shot-blocker, adjust per 36 minutes.

Be aware, too, that by some metrics such as wins produced and VORP, Perkins COSTS a team wins when he's on the floor. That is to say: when he plays, his team increases the likelihood of losing.

When it gets right down to it, adding Perkins is closer in-kind to being a Haywood-level player than a truly useful one.

I'm not sure why you're referencing Haywood's metrics when he hasn't played meaningful NBA minutes for several years now.

 

[Gimme Some Mo]

I'll take Perk if he only plays when a big man is injured. If we're planning on giving him even 10 consistent minutes a night... hell no.

 

[col63onel]

Straight off, I will grant that Perkins is probably a marginal upgrade over Haywood, who is a contract masquerading as a player.

(FYI, that is being generous as by some metrics such as VORP, Perkins is worse than Haywood.)

But he's far worse than Dalembert, by way of comparison (what is the deal with him, by the way?).

Perkins gives about 1% better rim protection than Haywood. But he's actually a worse shot-blocker, adjust per 36 minutes.

Be aware, too, that by some metrics such as wins produced and VORP, Perkins COSTS a team wins when he's on the floor. That is to say: when he plays, his team increases the likelihood of losing.

When it gets right down to it, adding Perkins is closer in-kind to being a Haywood-level player than a truly useful one.

His advanced defensive metrics are still pretty solid. And he's played a good chunk of minutes this year without Durant and/or Westbrook.

He's great for giving us 10 minutes of rim protection a night. The occasional dunk would be nice too. And fr the one critical playoff game where Moz gets in foul trouble, our interior defense wouldn't collapse.

 

[elcheato]

He's a capable defender that can rebound and provide fouls. He will barely take 5 shots a game and he may be our only option to find our 4th big. Him providing Mozgov some rest alone is worth it.

Still curious about what is going on with Dalembert...

He's not a capable defender though, he's probably more of a liability if anything given his lack of foot speed, and not even being a good rim protector because of his lack of athleticism. Rebounding wise? He's 67th in the league in REB%, and lineups with Perkins compared to Steven Adams almost always have lower rebounding rates. He's a good screener, that's about all he's worth.

Being forced to play James Jones for 30 minutes with Love hurt is a real reason.

And after seeing Perkins on the floor, Blatt would probably revert right back to that, because he's no better than Brendan Haywood. I'd rather wait to see what else becomes available via buy outs, because Perkins isn't worth playing. If Kevin Love gets hurt down the line the team isn't making deep playoff run anyway. And the last time Kevin Love missed a game before this recent Chicago one, James Jones didn't play a minute. This was just a weird decision by Blatt in a game that the Cavs clearly weren't up for.

Mozgov plays 32 minutes at center, Tristan takes the other 16 at center.
Tristan plays another 16 at PF, LeBron plays 32 at PF
JR Smith plays 35 at SF, LeBron plays 8 at SF (Assuming minutes bump for playoffs), Marion gets 5
Shumpert plays 30 at SG, Delly plays 18
Kyrie plays 40 at PG, Delly plays 8

I'm talking strictly post-season here, because the regular season really doesn't matter, they can win on the road. If you're talking regular season you just lower LeBron's minutes by 5 and bump Marion. Hell, given Tristan's youth you could easily just increase his minutes as well.

And if they sign Ray Allen, they can cut minutes from Shump, Delly, and JR. It's not ideal to play this small, but it beats the hell out of trotting Perkins out there.

 

[oracio]

Straight off, I will grant that Perkins is probably a marginal upgrade over Haywood, who is a contract masquerading as a player.

(FYI, that is being generous as by some metrics such as VORP, Perkins is worse than Haywood.)

But he's far worse than Dalembert, by way of comparison (what is the deal with him, by the way?).

Perkins gives about 1% better rim protection than Haywood. But he's actually a worse shot-blocker, adjust per 36 minutes.

Be aware, too, that by some metrics such as wins produced and VORP, Perkins COSTS a team wins when he's on the floor. That is to say: when he plays, his team increases the likelihood of losing.

When it gets right down to it, adding Perkins is closer in-kind to being a Haywood-level player than a truly useful one.

Haywood minutes played this season: 91 (less than 2 full games)
Perkins: 981.

 

[MirORich]

When looking at ANY of Perkins stats and advanced stats for this year you have to take into account the amount of time missed by not just Westbrook and KD but that whole team.

Perkins is a glue guy. If he's the glue defensive enforcer gluing together a lineup of Russ-Thabo-KD-Serge, he makes a positive impact. When on the floor with backups and scrubs he is a awful.

But his effect on the game for 12-15 minutes a game when on the floor with LeBron, Love, Kyrie, and Shump/JR would be worthwhile.

You have to look beyond the numbers and at the context. That is one of the points that is being made in the whole analytics vs. old time scouting. Balance between the two are necessary and contextual clues are key.