Kendrick Perkins - Canton's Enforcer

[mhi]

Have you even seen Haywood play? No? There's a reason for that.

Perkins clogs the paint and is an active body. These two aren't even comparable.

We're talking about a guy that just recorded the worst playoff PER in the entire history of the NBA.

Again, I think you guys are just going off of conventional notions about the guy.

If you think Haywood can barely make it down the court; wait until you see Perkins try it.

That said, I don't think he shares our reported interest in him, tbh.

 

[Stark]

Exactly. This guy is perhaps the worst player in the league. He is a cancer to the game of basketball. I hope he stays far away from this team.

 

[godfather]

We're talking about a guy that just recorded the worst playoff PER in the entire history of the NBA.

Again, I think you guys are just going off of conventional notions about the guy.

If you think Haywood can barely make it down the court; wait until you see Perkins try it.

That said, I don't think he shares our reported interest in him, tbh.

He was a starter, which was asinine. Thinking Perkins can start, and be a solid contributor over the long haul is insane.

Having him come off the bench, playing maybe 10-16 minutes a game at best is an entire different story.

Come playoff time, he won't even play that much. He might not play at all, he's just insurance in case someone goes down.

If someone really thinks Brendan Haywood, can be counted on to play at all, then that's just crazy. Haywood literally can't move on the floor, he's absolutely useless.

He will be out of the league once his contract expires.

 

[CosmoKramer]

It's a crime against basketball if we waste two valuable roster spots on both Kendrick Perkins and Brendan Haywood this year. I'm already ashamed of myself for actually looking up Andrea Bargnani's numbers, that's how fucking terrible Kendrick Perkins is.

 

[mrbeaks]

If "goon" were still a viable role in professional basketball, I'd be all for signing Perkins. Unfortunately, the day of the haymaker is gone; players have to contribute more than fouls to the stat sheet, and that is something Kendrick Perkins hasn't been able to do in a meaningful way for many, many seasons.

I mean, you do realize Thunder fans are doing cartwheels over this lunk's departure, right?

 

[godfather]

If "goon" were still a viable role in professional basketball, I'd be all for signing Perkins. Unfortunately, the day of the haymaker is gone; players have to contribute more than fouls to the stat sheet, and that is something Kendrick Perkins hasn't been able to do in a meaningful way for many, many seasons.

I mean, you do realize Thunder fans are doing cartwheels over this lunk's departure, right?

I don't blame them, he was making 7 mil a year, he was strangely their starting center for too many seasons, until Scott finally came to the conclusion he's really not good.

I don't think anyone is making the case that Perkins is that good, but neither are any of the other options out there.

He's just someone, if unfortunately, Moz/Love/Tristan goes down (let's hope not). It's not like we're asking much, maybe nothing at all from him.

 

[malus]

If "goon" were still a viable role in professional basketball, I'd be all for signing Perkins. Unfortunately, the day of the haymaker is gone; players have to contribute more than fouls to the stat sheet, and that is something Kendrick Perkins hasn't been able to do in a meaningful way for many, many seasons.

I mean, you do realize Thunder fans are doing cartwheels over this lunk's departure, right?

http://www.reddit.com/r/thunder/comments/2wgs5w

They don't seem to hate him. And he allows 45% shooting at the rim.

 

[mrbeaks]

I don't think anyone is making the case that Perkins is that good, but neither are any of the other options out there.

He's just someone, if unfortunately, Moz/Love/Tristan goes down (let's hope not). It's not like we're asking much, maybe nothing at all from him.

If one of those guys goes down, more Perk would just make a tough situation worse. Dalembert, for one, is a much better option. He can protect the rim and is a better rebounder.

 

[mrbeaks]

http://www.reddit.com/r/thunder/comments/2wgs5w

They don't seem to hate him. And he allows 45% shooting at the rim.

Well, there you go. I don't read other teams boards, but the few Thunder fans I know were elated to be rid of him. Guess they were okay with losing the '11-'12 Finals because Brooks wouldn't sit him.

 

[cavsfever]

If Perkins came here we might have to watch him play. Think about that for a moment.

 

[tn819]

Would pay to see him out there decking Noah and gasol in the playoffs. Not sure you expect more than 15 minutes every 2-3 games from him. We could use a little nasty.

 

[The Red Viper]

One of the very few players in NBA I dislike. Usually I like all of then but have never liked Perk. But from a basketball point of view, Perk as a fourth big man is a really good option. He is rubbish in the offensive end but the guy is a master at setting the screens and defensively he is still capable of giving a solid 10-15 mins a game, which is what is needed with Mozgov, TT and Love ahead of him.

However, If I remember correctly him and LeBron don't like each other and more importantly, Clippers have Doc Rivers as their coach who coached him at Boston. So, if it comes down to Clippers and Cavs, he will select Clippers.

 

[Surge]

If Perkins came here we might have to watch him play. Think about that for a moment.

 

[MRMsix6]

The answer is so obvious that I can't figure out whether you're purposely being a douchewaffle or just really, really thick.

For now, I'll just assume you didn't think it through or mistakenly missed the point and try to help you understand as clearly as I can:

1. Everything I said about Perkins stands alone, no matter whom you compare him to, or make no comparison at all. (As seemed clear to me.) It wasn't solely a comp-based post. He's a losing player by his own statistical measurements. I don't understand how you missed that but since you did, let's repeat it here, and with emphasis.

2. You also failed to mention that I also compared him to Dalembert. Nice job cherry picking just one comp.

3. You've of course overstated your case. He was injured last year. Obviously he didn't play. Genius. This year, he's capable of playing--and has done so. Haywood has played 18 games and averaged about 5 minutes per game this season.

This is important. Because that is just about how much playing time would be available to a backup to the backup bigs IN THE PLAYOFFS.

THE issue for any acquisitions: who can give a quality 5-8 minutes in the playoffs? That is all that the backup to the backups will play.

It simply doesn't matter if Perkins has or is capable of playing more minutes, he won't get the opportunity.

4. If the Cavs already have a player on the team that does the similar things that another player does, and they would be competing for the exact same limited minutes, THEN it makes sense to wonder if it's worth brining in Perkins.

5. Understanding the kind of potential impact a player can have in relation to other players is useful. That is, in fact, what we all constantly do, you included.

And specifically comparing him to an old, broken-down, and crappy player like Haywood was entirely intentional. Apart from minutes played this season-- which is irrelevant to the Cavs playoff rotation-- that was to shock people into realizing what Perkins actually is, not what we wish him to be.

6. We will close with the key point of the post: will Perkins move the needle for the Cavs? I didn't just comp him to Haywood (or Dalembert), I gave you my guess as to the answer to that question: No.

No, Perkins would probably not move the needle for the Cavs and he might even contribute to the Cavs losing games.


How you cannot understand such a clear and obvious thing truly baffles me.

This post is ridiculously over-the-top defensive.

Not only are you doubling down on a meaningless metrics comparison to a guy who has played 91 mostly garbage-time minutes in the last 2.5 years, you're going to fly off the handle and attack me in the process?

Ok then.

I didn't miss anything. Perkins is a marginal NBA player who you typically don't want seeing significant court time. As far as I'm concerned, Haywood is a non-NBA player at this point. Neither of them would being seeing significant minutes outside the pinch of Mozgov foul trouble or injury. It is my opinion that Perkins would have been slightly more useful in that situation than Haywood, seeing as he's more physically capable. Comparing their metrics in several categories does nothing for me considering one of them has played ~1500 minutes, many as a starter over the last two years, and the other has played 91. Neither guy is going to 'move the needle'. The number of bigs out there we can claim who are going to 'move the needle' is likely zero.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Cavaliers need to shift their thought process a little. With the trade Deadline passing by, any veteran adds are now for depth, not the rotation. Perk can still be a solid add if he wears a sign around his neck reading, "break glass in emergencies." He can still rebound, defend the paint, antagonize the opponent, and set picks. He can be a thug in your life, but only if you are really up against it.