Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[godfather]

This is why I hate the NBA early in the season. Overreactions of who is and who is not good gets carried away this part of the year.

If you're a team and have guys like Marvin Williams, Jeremy Fuckin' Lin, Cody Zeller, and Spencer Hawes playing meaningful minutes. You're not good.

These guys are table scraps in the league.

Although Jeremy Lamb looks like he's finally settled in. They got 3-4 nice pieces, but they are not a good team.

 

[Rich]

This is why I hate the NBA early in the season. Overreactions of who is and who is not good gets carried away this part of the year.

If you're a team and have guys like Marvin Williams, Jeremy Fuckin' Lin, Cody Zeller, and Spencer Hawes playing meaningful minutes. You're not good.

These guys are table scraps in the league.

Although Jeremy Lamb looks like he's finally settled in. They got 3-4 nice pieces, but they are not a good team.

We've got guys like Jared Cunningham playing meaningful minutes. THe Warriors have guys like Ian Clark and James Michael McAdoo playing meaningful minutes.

You're grasping at straws.

The Hornets will finish above .500 and make the playoffs. Beating them on the road is a good win.

EDIT: Jeremy Lin is a serviceable back-up, btw. There is nothing wrong with your teams talent level if he is your back-up point.

 

[tocov]

This is why I hate the NBA early in the season. Overreactions of who is and who is not good gets carried away this part of the year.

If you're a team and have guys like Marvin Williams, Jeremy Fuckin' Lin, Cody Zeller, and Spencer Hawes playing meaningful minutes. You're not good.

These guys are table scraps in the league.

Although Jeremy Lamb looks like he's finally settled in. They got 3-4 nice pieces, but they are not a good team.

Evidently, SO FAR, they are.

 

[godfather]

We've got guys like Jared Cunningham playing meaningful minutes. THe Warriors have guys like Ian Clark and James Michael McAdoo playing meaningful minutes.

You're grasping at straws.

The Hornets will finish above .500 and make the playoffs. Beating them on the road is a good win.

You're giving a 15 game window, to tell me a team that's been historically shitty almost every year is suddenly good.

They also don't have guys like Klay Thompson, Kevin Love, LeBron James, and Draymond Green on their team.

How anyone can tell me the Hornets are a good and quality team is beyond me. They are average at best, and that's being kind.

Playing good basketball (which I admit they have been), and being a good team are two separate things.

There's no way in hell they are finishing over .500. They will be in the lottery, and Jordan will draft another white nerd like always.

 

[tocov]

There's no way in hell they are finishing over .500.

Saved for review at the end of the season.

 

[godfather]

Evidently, SO FAR, they are.

Marvin Williams, Batum, and Lamb are all playing well above their law of averages. Any realist has to assume these guys will come down to life, and when they do, so will the team.

There's no way they can continue playing at the place they've started out at. It's just not happening. Every year, there's a team that climbs out of the gate better than expected.

That team then comes back to life. 15 games is nothing in the NBA man.

I mean, should we seriously believe the Mavs are a 3 seed in the West right now?

 

[godfather]

Saved for review at the end of the season.

I will impregnate Caitlyn Jenner if I'm wrong.

 

[tocov]

Marvin Williams, Batum, and Lamb are all playing well above their law of averages. Any realist has to assume these guys will come down to life, and when they do, so will the team.

There's no way they can continue playing at the place they've started out at. It's just not happening. Every year, there's a team that climbs out of the gate better than expected.

That team then comes back to life. 15 games is nothing in the NBA man.

I mean, should we seriously believe the Mavs are a 3 seed in the West right now?

Some players improve, some teams find their groove and over achieve. It happens, man.

We have nothing to go by except what we've seen so far this season.
So far they have been playing well and winning games. So it's weird to say that they are garbage, since they are obviously playing well. Teams are different then the sum of their parts.

 

[godfather]

Some players improve, some teams find their groove and over achieve. It happens, man.

We have nothing to go by except what we've seen so far this season.
So far they have been playing well and winning games. So it's weird to say that they are garbage, since they are obviously playing well. Teams are different then the sum of their parts.

Jeremy Lamb isn't going to shoot 53% for the floor this season. I was one of his biggest fans coming out of the draft.

Even I'm not that big of a homer of his to think he's going to keep up his ridiculous start.

Guys like Marvin Williams who isn't even good, is playing beyond what he does. They are playing above themselves. But they are not a good team, at all.

Marvin Williams is not going to end the year shooting 47% (never came close to that in his career) and shooting 41% from three (never came close to that).

Over .500? These guys would have to continue at that efficiency to get there.

 

[priceFTW]

Love is 13-20 from three in his last three games. In his last three games, his true shooting % is 70.6%. His TS% has been 64% or greater for 6 consecutive games now. Last year, it was 60%+ in only 27 games and he has NEVER had a streak longer than 3 straight games of 60%+ TS until now.He's up to 58.6% TS for the year. He needs more shots, honestly.

He's also grabbed 14 offensive rebounds in the last 5 games. He had only two 5 game stretches last year with 14+ ORebs.

 

[RedBlackAttack]

You're giving a 15 game window, to tell me a team that's been historically shitty almost every year is suddenly good.

Actually, historically speaking, the teams who are doing well in the standings by late-November, early-December tend to be the playoff teams at the end of the season and the really bad teams usually start the season ... really bad. Injuries and trades not withstanding, of course.

For example...


Playoff teams if the season had ended Nov. 27, 2014:

* = made playoffs

East
1. Toronto (13-2)*
2. Washington (9-5)*
3. Chicago (9-6)*
4. Milwaukee (9-5)*
5. Miami (8-7)
6. Atlanta (7-6)*
7. Cleveland (7-7)*
8. Brooklyn (6-8)*

West
1. Memphis (13-2)*
2. Golden State (12-2)*
3. Houston (12-3)*
4. Portland (12-3)*
5. San Antonio (10-4)*
6. Dallas (11-5)*
7. Phoenix (10-6)
8. LA Clippers (9-5)*
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9. New Orleans (7-6)*


In both conferences, seven of the respective conference's top eight teams were already set by this point. Yes, there is some re-shuffling, but the odds are very good that if you are in the playoff hunt 15 games into the season, you'll be in the hunt at the end.

It's also worth noting that the two teams that dropped out of the playoff picture from late-November to the end of the season either had a devastating injury (Heat with Bosh) or reshuffled the roster with weird trades (Phoenix with Dragic/Thomas).

Long story short, I think Charlotte has a much improved team and I don't expect them to just fall apart simply because we're accustomed to seeing them at the bottom of the conference.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Love is 13-20 from three in his last three games. In his last three games, his true shooting % is 70.6%. His TS% has been 64% or greater for 6 consecutive games now. Last year, it was 60%+ in only 27 games and he has NEVER had a streak longer than 3 straight games of 60%+ TS until now.He's up to 58.6% TS for the year. He needs more shots, honestly.

He's also grabbed 14 offensive rebounds in the last 5 games. He had only two 5 game stretches last year with 14+ ORebs.

The only excuse Blatt could use tonight is the "keep his minutes down" one.

His rotations are worse than Mike Brown's.

 

[tocov]

The only excuse Blatt could use tonight is the "keep his minutes down" one.

He can use the "we won the game although trailing throughout three quarters" excuse as well.

 

[Pioneer10]

The way the offense just died in the last 3 minutes we got a bit lucky. Sure we won but that is nowhere how you want to end the games. When things were clickijg we used good ball.movement to pull away in the 4th. Not this game

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[RedBlackAttack]

The only excuse Blatt could use tonight is the "keep his minutes down" one.

His rotations are worse than Mike Brown's.

The small ball lineup that he went to in the fourth quarter took control of the game defensively and basically froze Charlotte's offense completely out down the stretch.

It was about riding the defensive lineup to a win with the added bonus of keeping one of your star's minutes down. And I have no problem with it.

Bringing Love back in at the end, when the Hornets literally couldn't throw the ball in the ocean, would have simply been a move to placate his ego. Not to say they couldn't have also won with Kevin on the court, but why mess with something when it is working?

The way the offense just died in the last 3 minutes we got a bit lucky. Sure we won but that is nowhere how you want to end the games. When things were clickijg we used good ball.movement to pull away in the 4th. Not this game

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Their offense died a much worse death in that fourth quarter than ours. We can win ugly sometimes. It doesn't always have to be a clinic in offensive basketball.