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the bulls window was the two seasons rose spent on the sideline.
 
the bulls window was the two seasons rose spent on the sideline.
I have to admit I think Pau is going to help balance Rose's scoring decline. He wll be a sieve on defense though.
 
This Kyrie vs Rose stuff is just a bit fan base dong measuring contest. Rose may not be quite the player he used to be, and Kyrie had a down year last year and had some question marks. But both are awesome point guards. That should work for everyone.

It's all gonna get decided in the playoffs anyway.
 
This Kyrie vs Rose stuff is just a bit fan base dong measuring contest. Rose may not be quite the player he used to be, and Kyrie had a down year last year and had some question marks. But both are awesome point guards. That should work for everyone.

It's all gonna get decided in the playoffs anyway.

I hear what you're saying, but I don't see anything pointing to Rose returning to even close to all-star level play. He's been out two years and is shooting 22% against Slovenia and Co.
 
well wait tell rose gets back.. well wait til rose gets back.. mr mvp mr wait til rose gets back.

now its.
he just has some rust wait til the rust is gone
he just has some rust wait till the rust is gone.

Rose has been gone for 2 years and noone knows wheher he can play another season

every time someone talks good or notices kyrie here comes the rose disclaimer.

Kyrie doesnt have to prove he is as good or better than the ghost of rose. let rose do that.

rose isnt as good as kyrie. it is questionable whether he ever will be.

its on Rose to prove can ever be considered an mvp again let alone be one.
 
I hear what you're saying, but I don't see anything pointing to Rose returning to even close to all-star level play. He's been out two years and is shooting 22% against Slovenia and Co.
I think he'll be like Dwyane Wade. There will still be some games where he looks fantastic because of his athleticism, but overall he'll always be a shell of what he once was.
 
I think he'll be like Dwyane Wade. There will still be some games where he looks fantastic because of his athleticism, but overall he'll always be a shell of what he once was.

I think the real issue with Rose is the mental weakness. Wade is a total bitch and probably my most hated player in the NBA, but he's played at a high level when he's not injured. He has to rest games because of his degenerative knees, but when he plays he's really good. He doesn't play hesitant because of his past injuries or because of his knees. Sometimes he can't give it his all, but it's not because he's scared or because he lacks confidence.

Rose is different. Rose lacks the confidence that Wade has to come back from his injuries. It's why he refused to come back two years ago when he was cleared, the only athlete I can remember who did such a thing. It was why he played like a scrub last year during the games he was back. It's why he's still terrible despite being basketball ready for months. He's just a mentally weak individual. People call it rust, but I see a guy who's playing hesitant.

There's nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is going to be Adrian Peterson, coming back from a major injury and setting records. I just don't think Rose has that mental toughness to ever get back where he was before. He's always going to see those two knee injuries in the rear view mirror and be hesitant as a result.
 
This Kyrie vs Rose stuff is just a bit fan base dong measuring contest. Rose may not be quite the player he used to be, and Kyrie had a down year last year and had some question marks. But both are awesome point guards. That should work for everyone.

It's all gonna get decided in the playoffs anyway.
Do we really know that Rose is an awesome point guard though? We know that he WAS
 
I think the real issue with Rose is the mental weakness. Wade is a total bitch and probably my most hated player in the NBA, but he's played at a high level when he's not injured. He has to rest games because of his degenerative knees, but when he plays he's really good. He doesn't play hesitant because of his past injuries or because of his knees. Sometimes he can't give it his all, but it's not because he's scared or because he lacks confidence.

Rose is different. Rose lacks the confidence that Wade has to come back from his injuries. It's why he refused to come back two years ago when he was cleared, the only athlete I can remember who did such a thing. It was why he played like a scrub last year during the games he was back. It's why he's still terrible despite being basketball ready for months. He's just a mentally weak individual. People call it rust, but I see a guy who's playing hesitant.

There's nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is going to be Adrian Peterson, coming back from a major injury and setting records. I just don't think Rose has that mental toughness to ever get back where he was before. He's always going to see those two knee injuries in the rear view mirror and be hesitant as a result.

Thanks, Skip Bayless.
 
Rose has the second worst player efficiency for the USA. He's a little ahead of Mason Plumlee.

He's in the bottom 20 percent of all players in the tournament.

Delly is outplaying him shit makes me giggle lol
 
Thanks, Skip Bayless.

Am I wrong? Why is Rose the only athlete who is coming back from one of these injuries a total shell of himself? Why is he the only one who refused to come back for months after he was medically cleared? If it's not mental, then what is it that's keeping him from being able to play basketball when so many other players have come back from similar injuries? He looks like the guys from Space Jam who had their talent stolen right now.
 
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