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Memphis Grizzlies trade Rudy Gay to Toronto

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I know judging from the raptors forums that they are dying for a go to player. Hope they enjoy. :chuckles:
 
They are now deep! especially in the playoffs
 
AMC said:
Don't forget about Tayshaun Prince and Austin Daye. They will provide exactly what the Grizzlies need.
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I didn't see that they also got them. Prince will bring a nice veteran presence in there. I'm a bit surprised that Detroit moved him.
 
lol, and my hopes of memphis raping a dumb team in a gay trade paid off completely. sweet deal for them. lol @ everyone else tho and god i hope the cavs were not pursuing gay.
 
Detroit was the dumbest team in this trade. All they need is another point guard right? You have to think they're either going to move Knight to the sg or Calderon is going to be coming off the bench.
 
Triumph36 said:
lol, and my hopes of memphis raping a dumb team in a gay trade paid off completely. sweet deal for them. lol @ everyone else tho and god i hope the cavs were not pursuing gay.
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You know what they say...for every Presti there are two Colangelos.

kookoo said:
Detroit was the dumbest team in this trade. All they need is another point guard right? You have to think they're either going to move Knight to the sg or Calderon is going to be coming off the bench.
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You are incorrect. Detroit's motivation in this trade was getting out of Prince's contract. He's on the books for two more years after this one. Granted, they're also the ones who signed Prince to that shitty contract, but Dumars has ever been a guy who has to clean up his own messes. You may recall they gave up a draft pick to get Gordon's contract off their books recently. Plus, all they had to give up was Daye, who is basically a replacement-level player anyway.
 
Memphis has improved a ton in the last week. Some of you think we ripped them off (I think it was a win-win deal for both team personally). Hollinger's finger prints are all over both of these trades and say what you want about him, but he is one smart dude. He knew Gay's contract was awful. In fact I think Gay's contract was so bad, that I thought they would have to pay someone via draft picks to move him.

Gasol-Arthur
Z-Bo-Davis-Leuer
Prince (shooting 43% from three this year)-Day(shooting 52% on threes this year?!)-Pondexter (who is shooting 42% from three this year--that is what they need from this spot, 3 and D)
Allen-Wroten (Wroten may eventually back up both 1 and 2)
Conley-Bayless

That is 8 players under 25 years old. And that doesn't count Gasol who is 28. I do not see this cliff that some you speak of in 2015.


So they got out of one of the worst contracts in the league and got better.

Turned Gay, Speights, Ellington,Selby and a mid 2017 First Rounder into E Davis, Prince, Austin Day, a 2nd and over $17 Million saved this year alone-while leaving a lot more long term flexibility.

I bet Hollinger sees it as trading the first was a good price to dump Gay and his contract. Then he traded Speights, Ellington and Selby for Davis, Day, Prince and the 2nd--which is clearly a win.

I also think Detroit did ok here. I think having Knight play some SG with a real PG will help them a good deal.

I have no idea what the hell Toronto was thinking--but I guess they think Lowry can just take over for Calderon and Bargnani will take Davis's place now.

Anyone else think the GM's use Hollinger's trade machine when doing a deal with Hollinger??
 
Detroit is an up and coming team but financially they made some dumb moves, like a better drafting Chris Grant who can't understand the salary cap. They should be talking to Boston about point guards...
 
Between Ross, Derozen, and now Gay himself, Toronto essentially has a version of Rudy Gay at every stage of his career. They must really like him.

They could put those three in the same lineup and end up just rolling out a basketball version of "The History of Dance" chronicling Rudy Gay's life.
 
AvonCavsFan said:
Memphis has improved a ton in the last week. Some of you think we ripped them off (I think it was a win-win deal for both team personally). Hollinger's finger prints are all over both of these trades and say what you want about him, but he is one smart dude. He knew Gay's contract was awful. In fact I think Gay's contract was so bad, that I thought they would have to pay someone via draft picks to move him.

Gasol-Arthur
Z-Bo-Davis-Leuer
Prince (shooting 43% from three this year)-Day(shooting 52% on threes this year?!)-Pondexter (who is shooting 42% from three this year--that is what they need from this spot, 3 and D)
Allen-Wroten (Wroten may eventually back up both 1 and 2)
Conley-Bayless

That is 8 players under 25 years old. And that doesn't count Gasol who is 28. I do not see this cliff that some you speak of in 2015.


So they got out of one of the worst contracts in the league and got better.

Turned Gay, Speights, Ellington,Selby and a mid 2017 First Rounder into E Davis, Prince, Austin Day, a 2nd and over $17 Million saved this year alone-while leaving a lot more long term flexibility.

I bet Hollinger sees it as trading the first was a good price to dump Gay and his contract. Then he traded Speights, Ellington and Selby for Davis, Day, Prince and the 2nd--which is clearly a win.

I also think Detroit did ok here. I think having Knight play some SG with a real PG will help them a good deal.

I have no idea what the hell Toronto was thinking--but I guess they think Lowry can just take over for Calderon and Bargnani will take Davis's place now.

Anyone else think the GM's use Hollinger's trade machine when doing a deal with Hollinger??
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Well, when you're counting on guys like Jon Leuer, Austin Daye, and Quincy Pondexter, I'm not sure what to tell you. They are bad at basketball. Them being young doesn't change that.
 
The three Rudys

Ala the three daves(chappelle show)
 
Pistons clearly have a second move after this trade, don't see them bringing in Calderon without another guard on his way out...
 
Rich said:
Well, when you're counting on guys like Jon Leuer, Austin Daye, and Quincy Pondexter, I'm not sure what to tell you. They are bad at basketball. Them being young doesn't change that.
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I didn't say they were all superstars. And each one has a strength, whether you want to see it or not. So I am not sure what to tell you.


By the way: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MEM/2011.html
Memphis beat the Spurs and took OKC to 7 games WITHOUT Rudy Gay, two years ago. Last year with him? First round exit.

I think this trade makes them even more of a contender in the west.
 
AvonCavsFan said:
I didn't say they were all superstars. And each one has a strength, whether you want to see it or not. So I am not sure what to tell you.


By the way: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MEM/2011.html
Memphis beat the Spurs and took OKC to 7 games WITHOUT Rudy Gay, two years ago. Last year with him? First round exit.

I think this trade makes them even more of a contender in the west.
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If we are talking years ago, we have to include the fact that they had OJ Mayo. Do not see any way whatsoever this makes Memphis better. What happens if Z-bo or Gasol goes down? Royally screwed.
 
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