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Trumbo: Age 26, RH; 2012 Numbers - .340 AVG, 10 HR, 26 RBI, 12 BB, 37 SO, .387 OBP, .616 SLG, 1.004 OPS
LaHair: Age 29, LH; 2012 Numbers - .313 AVG, 10 HR, 22 RBI, 22 BB, 49 SO, .400 OBP, .592 SLG, .992 OPS
I'll take the younger guy with better numbers and higher upside.
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Trumbo is not going to hit .340 all year, and I don't even expect LaHair to hit over .300 all season (they both have ridiculously high BABIP's right now), but at least you know with him he is willing to take a walk. One major difference when comparing them.
I'd take either, and probably would prefer Trumbo because he's right handed, but someone labeling LaHair as a left handed Matt LaPorta is just wrong.
I'd take either, and probably would prefer Trumbo because he's right handed, but someone labeling LaHair as a left handed Matt LaPorta is just wrong.
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I know this is unproductive, but had we not traded White and Pomeranz, do you guys think we could've made a run for Cole Hanels as a rental?
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You are outside of your mind...
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If LaHair's power so far this year is legit, I don't see why he wouldn't be better or at least very close considering that's the only thing Trumbo had going for him last year.
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The big difference is that LaHair is 29 and Trumbo was 25. I really don't think I would trade our best prospect for another left handed bat and a guy who is just starting to click at 30.
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Nope...I think the Phillies will be buyers.
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Yes, it would be, if the Phillies were inclined to do that. Of course, dealing that for a rental is about as bad as dealing those two for ubaldo.
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When's the last time the tribe has developed a decent power bat or had one as a prospect? LaPorta was supposed to be that guy but he's trash. I honestly can't think of anyone else recently.
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I just looked at some stats and Clevelands big #1 pick a few years back in Beau Mills is batting a whopping .196 with 27 K's in 107 AB's. When your AAA teams best bats are Jason Donald and Trevor Crowe, the well is pretty dry.
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They're 3.5 out of 1st place, have a $172 payroll, and are "in it to win it" mode?
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From MLBTR:
The Indians are interested in Jorge Soler, but Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer thinks the Tribe will be outbid for the Cuban outfield prospect. At least nine teams are known to have some level of interest in Soler, with the Cubs considered by "most in the industry" to be the favorites.
Soler is 20 years old. He's 6'4", 225 lbs, bats RH, and plays the corner outfield positions. Here's the report on Soler from Baseball America's Jim Callis:
He hasn't been as hyped as fellow Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes, and he can't match Cespedes' flair for YouTube promotion, but some teams believe Soler is the better prospect. He's a 19-year-old athlete with five-tool potential.
Six-foot-3 and 205 pounds, Soler has explosive bat speed and power potential. He also has plus speed and arm strength and profiles as a classic right fielder, though he runs well enough to play center. Because of his youth, he'll need some time to develop, but he should be worth the wait.
The 2010 draft had a clear top three prospects in Harper, Taillon and Machado. I'm not sure Soler would have gone ahead of any of them. The Pirates insist they would have taken Taillon over Harper had they picked first rather than second, and five-tool players are harder to find at shortstop (Machado) then in the outfield.
The less-than-stellar performance record of high-profile Cuban defectors might have worked against Soler, too. All that said, he would have been more attractive then steady middle infielder Christian Colon (No. 4, Royals) or lefthander Drew Pomeranz (No. 5, Indians).
As for the 2012 Top 100 Prospects list, Soler is somewhat similar to Royals outfielder Bubba Starling, the fifth overall pick in the 2011 draft. Starling has the advantages of being more athletic and a better bet to stay in center field. I'd see both of them sitting in the 11-20 range on our next Top 100.
Soler is four years younger and more talented than Leonys Martin, another Cuban outfielder who signed a $15.6 million major league contract with the Rangers in April. Once Soler is cleared to sign with a major league team, he's expected to top Martin's deal.
The new CBA provides for a $2.9 million international cap for each team for the 2012-13 signing period, which doesn't start until July 2. As long as Soler signs before then, he won't be subject to the cap. And even if he were, he's talented enough and the penalties for busting the cap are so light (a 100-percent tax on the overage and a prohibition on signing any international player for more than $250,000 in the next signing period) that I bet several clubs would be willing to exceed the $2.9 million.
The Indians are interested in Jorge Soler, but Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer thinks the Tribe will be outbid for the Cuban outfield prospect. At least nine teams are known to have some level of interest in Soler, with the Cubs considered by "most in the industry" to be the favorites.
Soler is 20 years old. He's 6'4", 225 lbs, bats RH, and plays the corner outfield positions. Here's the report on Soler from Baseball America's Jim Callis:
He hasn't been as hyped as fellow Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes, and he can't match Cespedes' flair for YouTube promotion, but some teams believe Soler is the better prospect. He's a 19-year-old athlete with five-tool potential.
Six-foot-3 and 205 pounds, Soler has explosive bat speed and power potential. He also has plus speed and arm strength and profiles as a classic right fielder, though he runs well enough to play center. Because of his youth, he'll need some time to develop, but he should be worth the wait.
The 2010 draft had a clear top three prospects in Harper, Taillon and Machado. I'm not sure Soler would have gone ahead of any of them. The Pirates insist they would have taken Taillon over Harper had they picked first rather than second, and five-tool players are harder to find at shortstop (Machado) then in the outfield.
The less-than-stellar performance record of high-profile Cuban defectors might have worked against Soler, too. All that said, he would have been more attractive then steady middle infielder Christian Colon (No. 4, Royals) or lefthander Drew Pomeranz (No. 5, Indians).
As for the 2012 Top 100 Prospects list, Soler is somewhat similar to Royals outfielder Bubba Starling, the fifth overall pick in the 2011 draft. Starling has the advantages of being more athletic and a better bet to stay in center field. I'd see both of them sitting in the 11-20 range on our next Top 100.
Soler is four years younger and more talented than Leonys Martin, another Cuban outfielder who signed a $15.6 million major league contract with the Rangers in April. Once Soler is cleared to sign with a major league team, he's expected to top Martin's deal.
The new CBA provides for a $2.9 million international cap for each team for the 2012-13 signing period, which doesn't start until July 2. As long as Soler signs before then, he won't be subject to the cap. And even if he were, he's talented enough and the penalties for busting the cap are so light (a 100-percent tax on the overage and a prohibition on signing any international player for more than $250,000 in the next signing period) that I bet several clubs would be willing to exceed the $2.9 million.