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Pauly d should have never been given any say so on this team. Just set up the computer and attach value to picks that’s all. Still can’t believe he was the reason we passed on Wentz.

If you believe that Paul DePodesta is the reason why the Cleveland Browns didn't pick Carson Wentz, then you're an idiot. Flat out.

If Hue had been sold on the guy, they would have pick him at No. 2. Hue wasn't sold, neither was Sashi... so Sashi (not Paul) decided to trade out.
 
If you believe that Paul DePodesta is the reason why the Cleveland Browns didn't pick Carson Wentz, then you're an idiot. Flat out.

If Hue had been sold on the guy, they would have pick him at No. 2. Hue wasn't sold, neither was Sashi... so Sashi (not Paul) decided to trade out.

Paul was the one who said he wasn’t a top 20 QB. No one in the FO cares what hue wants. That’s been clear the last 2 years with what he’s leaked to silver.
 
Paul was the one who said he wasn’t a top 20 QB. No one in the FO cares what hue wants. That’s been clear the last 2 years with what he’s leaked to silver.

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Paul was the one who said he wasn’t a top 20 QB. No one in the FO cares what hue wants. That’s been clear the last 2 years with what he’s leaked to silver.

Here's the full quote:

"We have to make judgments on the individual players and we're not always going to be right. But in this particular case, we just didn't feel it was necessarily the right bet to make for us at this time. Again, it comes down to individual evaluation of a player. We will not always be right on those type of things. I think the hardest part, and where we have to stay the most disciplined, as much as you want a player, you can't invent him if he doesn't exist. In a given year, there may be two or three NFL-ready quarterbacks at the college level. In another year, there literally may be zero. There just may be not be anybody in that year who's good enough to be a top 20 quarterback in the NFL. Even though you have a desperate need for one, you have to resist the temptation of taking that guy just because you have a need if you don't believe he's one of those 20 guys at the end of the day. I think that's the hardest part, just maintaining your discipline because you have the need. That's what we did this year."

Now... even if you want to go ahead and ignore the whole "DePodesta doesn't have final say over the roster" thing, he still says "we" and "we're" numerous times, meaning himself, Sashi, Hue, Berry and probably Haslam himself.

Above all else, Hue Jackson and Pep Hamilton weren't sold on Wentz. That eliminated him from consideration from the jump.

Think of it this way, drafting a QB at the top of the draft is, for all intents and purposes, a marriage between the player and the organization. The QB is going to get as much rope as humanly possible because he's the on-field face of the organization. EVERYONE... head coach, offensive coordinator, QB coach, general manager, personnel director, owner... everyone has to be sold on the guy or it's not going to work.
 
Obi Melifonwu hasn't played a single game & you've got his & Peppers' careers figured out. Some of these takes... :chuckle:

Ok fair. But you are telling me you would take Kizer/Peppers over Watson/Obi? (Let's assume Obi is a solid starter)
 
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Ok fair. But you are telling me you would take Kizer/Peppers over Watson/Obi? (Let's assume Obi is a solid starter)

Loaded question. I'd take Watson over both Peppers and Kizer, in a vaccum. Obi Melifonwu does nothing for me & is now both injured AND raw. If we're assuming, I'll go ahead and assume Peppers becomes a solid starter as well.
 
Guys Watson could be the next Mark Sanchez for all we know. Great first year and then hot garbage. Right now he's a homer, but next year he could be a different story as defenses start to figure out the Houston gimmicked up offense. Or he could very well be great.

All the guys that are labeled strikeouts should actually be labeled still at bat down in the count.

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Guys Watson could be the next Mark Sanchez for all we know. Great first year and then hot garbage. Right now he's a homer, but next year he could be a different story as defenses start to figure out the Houston gimmicked up offense. Or he could very well be great.

All the guys that are labeled strikeouts should actually be labeled still at bat down in the count.

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Sanchez was never anywhere close to as good as Watson has been in his first year. In fact, Sanchez was terrible his first year.

Were you thinking of someone else?
 
Sanchez was never anywhere close to as good as Watson has been in his first year. In fact, Sanchez was terrible his first year.

Were you thinking of someone else?

I could have sworn @PIP was drooling all over him. Talking about how the Browns fucked up by trading down with the Jets and should have taken him.

You could say kapernick as well...


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I could have sworn @PIP was drooling all over him. Talking about how the Browns fucked up by trading down with the Jets and should have taken him.

You could say kapernick as well...


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Pip just thought he was hot. Sanchez sucked from go.
 
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Sanchez was never anywhere close to as good as Watson has been in his first year. In fact, Sanchez was terrible his first year.

Were you thinking of someone else?
Maybe Dan Marino? We can take solace in twenty years that Watson never won a Super Bowl? Still cracks me up, he was theguy who the advanced maths proved would suck bc his didnt have enough velocity at the combine.
 

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