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He's a 6'3" 300lb DT with 4.3 speed.
Thanks for the scouting report Amon, I do appreciate it. Having said that, I don't believe that he's actually 300 lbs and runs a legit 4.3. Tedd Ginn doesn't run a 4.3, or at least not a 4.30. I don't think it's physically possible for some one that size to run that fast.

Honestly, if he just runs a 4.5, that would be amazing and make him unstoppable. My guess is at best he's a 4.6, which would still be awesome.
 
Sorry...typo...the number I had was actually 4.8, but that was from the media guide at the Herbstreit Challenge.
 
His weakness is technique, in other words he is going to be a stud. Remember debating about this before style??? :chuckles:
 
His weakness is technique, in other words he is going to be a stud. Remember debating about this before style??? :chuckles:
Vaguely.

The OSU coaches are awesome at teaching technique, so if they have to pick between you being slow, small, weak, dumb, or not so hot with your technique, they choose the latter every time.
 
“Long time Irish fans are starved – and rightfully so – for a return to prominence. There are only half a dozen teams in college football who might lay claim to anything approaching the history and tradition in South Bend. The second winningest program of all time with eight national titles and six Heisman Trophies since 1936, Notre Dame can (and will) be an almost instant power as soon as they find the right coach. However, their last national title (1988) and Heisman (1987) came before any of their current recruits were even born. With their last bowl win coming in 1994, few high school juniors have a living memory of them actually beating someone in the post season because most weren’t even potty trained. The time since has been filled with misery on the field and even the shame of NCAA sanctions off of it. When fans and pundits speak about ‘awakening the echoes’ it is no exaggeration; echoes are all that remain.

Charlie Weis, on the other hand, has chosen to break from tradition. He has actually co-authored not one but two books since being hired in 2005 and is the first sitting coach in South Bend to attempt to write something since Ara Parseghian. Parseghian at least waited until he had established his legitimacy by winning a pair of national titles and compiling an 85-15 record, but with no bowl victories and no wins against USC, Weis’ most impressive and memorable accomplishment thus far is against a woeful 7-5 Michigan squad in 2005.”

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"Notre Dame has just impressed a whole lot of people with its arrogance over the years and bringing them down is an enormously satisfying, gleeful experience for a lot of folks, and very painful for others," says Mike Oriard, an alum who played on the decorated 1968-69 teams.

http://www.bucknuts.com/news/story.php?article=2027
 
The only reason they are not good is because of the grades you have to have to get into dame. Hoooooooooo :rolleyes:
 
From the Boston Herald:

Comeuppance for Weis?

Bob Kuechenberg has seen better days. He’s a 1969 Notre Dame grad. The Irish are [1-7] and possibly on their way to ???

“I’m feeling homicidal right now,” he joked.

He turned deadly serious, however, when the subject turned to Irish coach and former Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis.

“I want to start the movement -- Charlie’s last name is four letters, and so is ogre, because that’s what he is,” Kuechenberg said. “Look it up, and you’ll find some other adjectives that fit him to a tee.”

“This man has not been a good ... human being might be a little bit broad ... but this man has not been good to anybody who came to Notre Dame. Within the Notre Dame family, when former All-American players say to a man that this guy’s an (expletive), and for no reason, to me it’s karma that he’s getting his ass handed to him.”

A number of Irish grads believe he strong-armed Notre Dame into a 10-year contract just seven games into his first season, in 2005, when he was already operating on a six-year deal.

Kuechenberg cites the embarrassment of losing earlier candidates Urban Meyer to Florida and George O’Leary to a falsified resume for the administration acting as quickly as it did, fearing Weis would leave for the NFL after just one season because he had a small $1.5 million buyout.

“In the face of all of those embarrassments, to then have Charlie Weis back out on you a couple of weeks into his career would have been really embarrassing, which is probably why they succumbed to that type of blackmail,” Kuechenberg said. “It’s the mark of the man. I can see after a couple of years to say let’s talk about an extension. But right away? It’s karmic justice that Charlie Weis is getting what he deserves for his actions.”

What particularly rankles Kuechenberg is how Weis has treated Notre Dame grads, big and small.

“I was up there for the Michigan State game,” Kuechenberg said. “He has insulted people. It doesn’t matter if you’re an ex-football player, a regular alumni, what have you. He’s been abusive and totally, unnecessarily arrogant to the Notre Dame family itself and it’s all coming back in his lap.

“I’ve yet to meet the man, and frankly I hope I never do. There’s nothing about his image that I have any respect for. I don’t know Charlie personally, but his image is wide enough and consistent enough from sources I hold in high regard. These are good friends of mine and it’s the same broken record. This guy is an ogre.

“He’s been rude to them, curt and abrasive. The Notre Dame student-athlete is held to a higher standard, so what’s with the coach? Hello -- you’re the leader. Act like one.”

Kuechenberg sees a flicker of hope.

“I’m just hoping one of these wealthy alums helps buy out his contract,” he said.
 
This is a pretty good article from the Washington Post.
After Notre Dame’s national drowning to Navy on Saturday; even the planned respite to test all the service academies isn’t working out too well. Is there anyone out there that the Irish can beat? Notre Dame and Cap’n Charlie face more choppy waters ahead. Why? Well, in an article from Slate, Jonathan Chait surmises pithily: “The Worst Football Coach in the Universe? Introducing Charlie Weis”.

We all know Weis as a blowhard and self-serving egotist. Chait goes on to make a more caustic analysis: “In the entire history of American sports hype, has there ever been any fraud more grossly fraudulent than Notre Dame football coach Charlie Weis? (Their) record is only the faintest indicator of just how awful Notre Dame is. While Notre Dame has suffered very few injuries, three of its opponents have had to play the Irish without their starting quarterbacks. Two of those teams, USC and Michigan, nonetheless beat Notre Dame by a larger margin than either has beaten any other opponent so far this year; against UCLA, which had been forced to use its third-string quarterback, a walk-on. In that game, Notre Dame compiled just 140 yards of offense, but won with the help of seven Bruin turnovers, five of them hand-delivered courtesy of the hapless walk-on signal-caller.

(Through last week) Notre Dame is averaging 1.09 yards per rush this year. The NCAA statistical archive goes back only to 1999. The worst yards per carry recorded in that period belongs to a 2001 University of Arizona squad that gained 1.46 yards per attempt. So, the worst rushing team recorded by the NCAA in the last nine years was still about one-third better than Notre Dame.


This is not merely bad. This is ineptitude on a staggering, world-historical scale. Such a performance would be prima facie evidence for firing the coach even at a doormat program like Indiana. At a school like Notre Dame, well … it's simply impossible to describe how awful this performance is. It's true that Notre Dame has suffered a dip in its talent level, attributable to poor recruiting by Weis' predecessor Tyrone Willingham. But if you go by recruiting rankings, Charlie Weis still has as much or more talent on hand than most of the opponents who have been beating him soundly.

So, Weis is obviously not a great coach—no great coach has ever underperformed so grossly—and he may well be a terrible one. So, why was he ever hailed as a genius in the first place?

The giant edifice of fraud that is Weis' reputation is actually a series of smaller frauds piled on top of each other. The foundational myth is that he was a brilliant offensive coordinator. Weis came from the New England Patriots, who had just won a Super Bowl. Every player and coach associated with a Super Bowl winner is usually subjected to a certain level of hype, and Weis is no exception. But Weis was actually quite ordinary. During his eight seasons as a coordinator, six of his teams finished in the bottom half of the league in total offense. The Patriots offense has been dramatically better—seventh in the league, on average—since Weis left.

The myth grew after Weis was appointed at Notre Dame and started proclaiming his own brilliance. He told his players, "Every game you will have a decided schematic advantage." After struggling to salvage his first recruiting class, he announced to the press, "Now it's time for the X's and O's. Let's see who has the advantage now."

Having primed the national media to receive him as a conquering hero, Weis enjoyed a tidal wave of publicity in 2005, his first year at Notre Dame. His crowning achievement was a narrow loss at home to a USC team then thought, erroneously, to be among the greatest ever. (The 2005 Trojans, who lost to Vince Young and Texas in the national championship game, had great skill position talent but a weak, injury-riddled defense.)

This first season was seen as the start of a new dynasty. In truth, Notre Dame was bound to improve, given the natural maturation of a couple of excellent Willingham recruiting classes. But Weis' first two teams weren't really that good. The 2005 and 2006 Notre Dame teams had a total of one win over an opponent that finished in the top 25, and they were administered several beat-down losses.

Coming into this year, Notre Dame was still picked to finish in the top 40. Blue-Gray Sky, a Notre Dame blog, polled its nine contributors before the year began, and the average predicted record was slightly better than 9-3. It looks like Weis will fall a wee bit short of that. The difference between that predicted record and Notre Dame's actual record is a good measure of the difference between Weis' reputation as a coach and his actual ability.

Being a head coach in college involves very different skills—motivating kids, teaching basic skills—than being a coordinator in the NFL. Even good NFL coordinators, like Cam Cameron and Dave Wannstedt, have struggled as college head coaches. Maybe Weis did sometimes turn castoff linemen into solid starters in the NFL, but at Notre Dame, he can't turn blue-chip prospects into passable players.

The statistics are mind boggling. I can’t stand Weis, and hope the worst for him, but Gerry Faust didn't do this bad. It’s almost unexplainable outside of the explanation that he is the worst coach in all of college football.
 
Sly Croom > Weiss.

Glad to see Navy beat them.
 
From SI:

Let’s start with the fairly obvious realization: Charlie Weis is a terrible college football coach.

Sure, he looked great the past two seasons when he was leading a pair of veteran-laden Notre Dame teams to consecutive BCS bowl berths.

But when faced this season with the ultimate test of a college coach -- the universal challenge of molding a team full of talented but inexperienced players into a cohesive and successful squad -- Weis has failed miserably. It shouldn't be entirely surprising, after all, he had no prior training.

Regardless of whether Weis' 1-9 Irish win or lose their last two games against Duke (1-9) or Stanford (3-7), Notre Dame's 2007 season will go down as one of the worst debacles ever orchestrated by a college coach. Hopefully, it will also serve as a cautionary tale to athletic directors around the country when hiring their next coach: That leading 20- and 30-something professionals to Super Bowls does not automatically render a coach capable of leading 18- and 19-year-old college kids.

"The college game is about a lot more than Xs and Os," said SuperPrep recruiting analyst and longtime college football follower Allen Wallace. "The Irish have a very intelligent coach. But this season showed [Weis] has a significant amount to learn about the college game and putting a team together."

If the 2007 season has been a learning experience for Weis, Notre Dame is footing an extremely expensive tuition bill.

In October 2005, seven games into Weis' tenure, school administrators decided they'd seen enough from the former New England Patriots guru to merit investing an additional 10 years and more than $30 million in him. Under Weis' watch, quarterback Brady Quinn had morphed from a struggling sophomore into a flourishing junior. Weis was universally hailed for his game plan and play-calling in a near-upset of then top-ranked USC. And highly ranked recruits from around the country were already falling all over themselves to play for him.

It seemed clear at the time that Weis was the perfect guy to return the Irish to glory -- and maybe one day he will. This season, however, a Notre Dame team backed with all the resources an NBC television contract and never-ending stable of donors can buy, and comprised of no fewer than 25 Rivals.com four- or five-star recruits, has not been remotely competitive against most of the teams on its schedule. While one might argue Michigan and USC have more talented rosters, Notre Dame's last two conquerors, Navy and Air Force, most certainly do not.

The coach seems as mystified as the rest of us as to how this could happen.

"The analysis that really has to take place is where, in fact, is the breakdown," Weis said after the 41-24 loss to Air Force. "If I had that answer, we wouldn't have the problem."

The "breakdown" Weis refers to is one that's apparently taking place on a near-daily basis on the Irish practice field. Presumably, Weis and his assistants are teaching their players how to correct their mistakes, yet Saturday after Saturday, those same players go into a game and make the same mistakes.

Either Weis has managed to assemble a roster full of athletes incapable of following instructions (highly unlikely) -- or the coaches aren't getting their message across effectively (more likely). That's where Weis' background comes into question.

Prior to his 2005 arrival in South Bend, the 51-year-old New Jersey native had never played or coached at the collegiate level. His credentials for the job were: a) His reputation as an offensive guru; b) his anticipated recruiting cachet, what with those four Super Bowl rings; and c) the fact that he graduated from Notre Dame.

Though Weis himself claims that, "My greatest attribute professionally is as a teacher" -- how much teaching had he really had to do prior to this season? Tom Brady and Weis' other Patriots protégés arrived as fully developed professionals. Quinn and the other veteran stars Weis inherited at Notre Dame had at least played college football. Teaching guys a playbook is one thing; teaching them how to play is another.
 

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