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North/South Korea reach agreement (North Korea threatens United States pg. 5)

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"After exchange of fire, North Korea threatens "military action" if South doesn't quiet loudspeakers at border".

Damn. I wish I could justify military action every time my neighbors would play loud music back in the day.
 
South Korea is an ally. We would be involved.

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Damn right. An invasion of South Korea threatens our access to çell phones, tablets and other electronics. No way we settle for that. Give me Twitter or give me death!
 
Why can't we assassinate guys like Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Un? Or pay someone in North Korea to do so?

I always wonder why we don't assassinate more of these guys. Why didn't someone assassinate Hitler, for example?
 
Why can't we assassinate guys like Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Un? Or pay someone in North Korea to do so?

I always wonder why we don't assassinate more of these guys. Why didn't someone assassinate Hitler, for example?
They hate us cuz they ain't us
 
I can recall South Korea blasting an SNSD song for 24 hours straight which left North Korea in an uproar, and another where they played 4Minute songs.
They do this pretty much every year.
Same old story.
 
I can recall South Korea blasting an SNSD song for 24 hours straight which left North Korea in an uproar, and another where they played 4Minute songs.
They do this pretty much every year.
Same old story.

I heard they played "Cecilia" by Simon & Garfunkel on repeat. :chuckle:
 
Why can't we assassinate guys like Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Un? Or pay someone in North Korea to do so?

Because why would we? Who is to say that whomever fills that power vacuum wouldn't be much worse.

The Kim family is enjoying the life.. They aren't interested in war with anybody. The people in the DPRK are responsible for their own freedom; and if the South Koreans feel any kinship with them, then, it's up to them to do what they will.

Tired of spilling American blood for people who will spit and trample on our flag.

I always wonder why we don't assassinate more of these guys. Why didn't someone assassinate Hitler, for example?

The time to assassinate Hitler was before the war started. You could argue that Hitler's own military blunders allowed the Allies to win. Had he never invaded the USSR, he may have been able to avoid outright defeat. The Nazis and Soviets would have inevitably went to war; but changing tactics to bring about a stalemate that holds the 1941 position would have been the ideal strategy, imo.

From there, it's a race to the bomb. I still think the Americans would have won; and in fact, Germany might have suffered even greater catastrophic devastation had numerous atomic weapons been detonated over their cities.

So yeah, I'd say it's probably best we didn't assassinate Hitler.
 
Because why would we? Who is to say that whomever fills that power vacuum wouldn't be much worse.

The Kim family is enjoying the life.. They aren't interested in war with anybody. The people in the DPRK are responsible for their own freedom; and if the South Koreans feel any kinship with them, then, it's up to them to do what they will.

Tired of spilling American blood for people who will spit and trample on our flag.



The time to assassinate Hitler was before the war started. You could argue that Hitler's own military blunders allowed the Allies to win. Had he never invaded the USSR, he may have been able to avoid outright defeat. The Nazis and Soviets would have inevitably went to war; but changing tactics to bring about a stalemate that holds the 1941 position would have been the ideal strategy, imo.

From there, it's a race to the bomb. I still think the Americans would have won; and in fact, Germany might have suffered even greater catastrophic devastation had numerous atomic weapons been detonated over their cities.

So yeah, I'd say it's probably best we didn't assassinate Hitler.

I shouldn't have said us. I'm interested in why it just doesn't happen more often that a foreign country assassinates another leader.

I guess it's all situation dependent as you point out
 
I shouldn't have said us. I'm interested in why it just doesn't happen more often that a foreign country assassinates another leader.

I guess it's all situation dependent as you point out

We assassinated numerous leaders from 1946-1992. James Angleton headed CIA operations that dealt with selected targeting of political leaders that should be silenced to advance U.S. interests.
 
We assassinated numerous leaders from 1946-1992. James Angleton headed CIA operations that dealt with selected targeting of political leaders that should be silenced to advance U.S. interests.

Jesus. I suck at history.

Which leaders?
 
Jesus. I suck at history.

Which leaders?

Lots.

Mosaddegh, is one of the most widely known.

Here's a not-so-comprehensive list of supposed assassination targets:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US/Foreign_Assassinations_since_1945

Here's The Guardian's short list:
Achmad Sukarno of Indonesia In 1975 the US Senate Church committee, investigating the activities of the CIA, noted that it had "received some evidence of CIA involvement in plans to assassinate President Sukarno." An agent had been identified who it was believed might be recruited for the job.

As a leader of the nationalist non-aligned movement, Sukarno was seen by the US as a dangerous irritant. He was overthrown in a bloody coup in 1965 and died under house arrest five years later.

Fidel Castro of Cuba The CIA hatched several plots to kill Castro between 1960 and 1965. "The proposed assassination devices ran the gamut from high-powered rifles to poison pills, poison pens, deadly bacterial powders and other devices which strain the imagination," according to the Church report.

Patrice Lumumba of Congo President Eisenhower ordered the assassination of the country's first prime minister in 1960. CIA chief Allen Dulles sent a CIA scientist to Congo with a lethal virus. But before the plan could be activated, Lumumba was deposed. He was later captured with CIA help and killed by rebel forces.

Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic The administrations of Eisenhower and Kennedy, through the CIA, plotted the assassination of the dictator for several years before a group of dissidents shot him to death in 1961.

Salvador Allende of Chile President Nixon made it clear in 1970 that a CIA assassination of the new left-wing president would not be unwelcome. Allende was killed in a 1973 coup.

Prince Norodom Sihanouk of Cambodia He claimed that the CIA set up several plots to kill him in the early 1960s. He was deposed in a 1970 coup.

Muammar Gadafy of Libya After a Libyan terrorist attack in Berlin in 1986, US jets tried to kill Gadafy in bombings which included a strike at his personal compound. It killed his infant adopted daughter.

Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia The US targeted Milosevic during the Nato bombing campaign of 1999, narrowly missing him when his empty villa was hit by three laser bombs

Osama bin Laden After 9/11 President Bush issued an authority to kill Bin Laden and two dozen top aides if they could not be captured alive. Last November six suspected followers, including one of the principal strategists, Salim Sinan al-Harethi, were killed in their car by an unmanned CIA Predator plane in Yemen.
 
Why can't we assassinate guys like Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Un? Or pay someone in North Korea to do so?

I always wonder why we don't assassinate more of these guys. Why didn't someone assassinate Hitler, for example?
They tried to assassinate Hitler. Problem is that they sent Tom Cruise to do it.

The people who make up the inner circle of leaders like Un are all sycophants. They stand to lose far more if Un dies/falls than you could pay them otherwise. You couldnt pay them enough. I think a better idea would be to just lift sanctions and try and kill In with gout.
 

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