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Hidalgo, heard it was decent, it wasn't.

Too long and the Native American element seemed contrived and borderline offensive.
 
Saw Amazing Spider-Man 2 last night. Loved it. I didn't think they'd have the guts to do what they needed to do, but they did it to perfection. Electro was an awesome villain, and they set things up really well for the next installment.

Well It does take guts to not have a coherent story-line, have poor character development and to approach Schumacher levels of camp.
 
Gouri. I'm sitting in a theater as I type this waiting for Spidey to begin. I never watched Spidey cartoons, read any comics and didn't like the original trilogy. But I thought The Amazing Spider Man was very good and well done. So I'm interested in ASM2. I have high hopes but you hated it and I respect your opinion more than anybody on this board when it comes to anything and everything.

I'm assuming I'm going to like it BECAUSE I don't have that personal connection to Spidey like you do. I can just enjoy the movie and not be offended by the little things.

Spidey to you is like Harry Potter to me.
 
Gouri. I'm sitting in a theater as I type this waiting for Spidey to begin. I never watched Spidey cartoons, read any comics and didn't like the original trilogy. But I thought The Amazing Spider Man was very good and well done. So I'm interested in ASM2. I have high hopes but you hated it and I respect your opinion more than anybody on this board when it comes to anything and everything.

I'm assuming I'm going to like it BECAUSE I don't have that personal connection to Spidey like you do. I can just enjoy the movie and not be offended by the little things.

Spidey to you is like Harry Potter to me.

The problem is that it's just a bad movie. It's like a chick flick occasionally featuring Spiderman and some terrible villains. Gouri covered it really well. It goes way beyond a level of suspension of disbelief that you'll find in most superhero movies to straight up carelessness and/or idiocy. The plane scenes are especially egregious. The scenes with Rhino are hall-of-fame level cringe worthy. The movie looks like what I think a movie would look like if you gave a high school kid all the resources of Marvel/Disney to make a Spiderman movie.

The only part about the movie that's good is the casting and acting of the main characters.

And believe it or not, there was actually more than a handful of people clapping upon its conclusion at my theater. Made me do one of these:
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I've fallen asleep 3 times to Elysium already. Let's see if I can get through for once

Just watched Captain Phillips. Liked it. Liked how they showed the other side of piracy and made the captors a little empathetic at least so you saw their humanity. Wouldn't say it was great, but it was good. What the fuck were they chewing and where do I get some?
 
I've fallen asleep 3 times to Elysium already. Let's see if I can get through for once

Just watched Captain Phillips. Liked it. Liked how they showed the other side of piracy and made the captors a little empathetic at least so you saw their humanity. Wouldn't say it was great, but it was good. What the fuck were they chewing and where do I get some?

Khat.

I read Black Hawk Down.
 
Amazing Spider-Man 2..

My wife's rating = 7 / 10. If you just want a forgettable thrill, go for it.
My rating = 4 / 10. Literally couldn't wait for it to be over.

The one word to sum up all of this review is "boring." That's all I kept thinking in the theater... "Fucking shut up and c'mon with this fucking teen drama shit and let's get some action... THIS SHIT IS BORING!"

The movie is simply boring, as well as downright stupid.

But anyway, I want to preface with two things: first, I loved the first Amazing Spider-Man, I also loved the first two Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies. This movie was far more like Spider-Man 3 than any of those films. Second, I had high expectations for the movie, but was willing to give the writers/director some major creative license to make their own version of the film. They just got lost in their own lazy plotline.

So, I walk into the flick thinking "oh, yeah! It's Spidah-man!!" I love Spider-Man. To me, Spider-Man was the best of all superheroes because he had so many human qualities. I own almost every Spider-Man comic dating from the mid 60's to the mid 90's. I'm only missing the very first few (the most valuable ones of course). One of my favorite Spider-Man comics was when Spider-Man got evicted from his apartment, and I'm pretty sure it said "Merry Christmas Spider-Man," but he was on his front stoop holding an eviction notice with his stuff in a box. Doesn't get more real than that.

So, anyway movie starts and I'm amped.. Start off first scenes are of Richard Parker, Peter's dad, saying plot spoiler things and on the lamb. This is mostly consistent with his story (but I'm really not concerned with the story in the comics as it's secondary to the one they're telling). Anyway, this very first scene, once they board the plane, is very indicative of the lack of thought in exposition of the rest of the film. It's so poorly done, that you literally will say "WTF?" aloud in the theater because it's so stupid.

If I kill the pilot of an aircraft (I too am I pilot mind you), and get up to take a piss or possibly kill two other people, do I leave the now-dead pilot holding the reigns of the aircraft? Why wouldn't I move his body, and put the plane on autopilot? I slit the pilot's throat, but he's still flying the fucking plane?!

These types of "WTF" moments simply litter the film. It's unavoidable and so fucking stupid you'd have to be stupid (or just not care) not to notice. I'm not the type to nitpick either, after this first scene I said "fuck it" and gave them the benefit of doubt.

Five minutes later we have Rhino... oh boy... So, long story short, in order to create a scene where Spider-Man saves an old Korean man and his granddaughter (anonymous characters btw, and never mind the 100 people he saved on the bus, they were less important), the Rhino is driving a truck through New York city at high speed and is somehow unstoppable. The Amazing Spider-Man cannot stop a bald guy in a truck driving at 45 mph down the street. Tobey McGuire stopped a train with his bare hands, but this Spider-Man, for whatever reason can't punch through the windshield of a truck. On 3 attempts he can't do it. But he can pick up a police car...

Anyway, no more Rhino.. No costume, no nothing.. just.. gone.. What happened??

Expositionally Gwen explains: they were foreign mobsters on a heist, shows her cellphone to the camera, and story moves on.. WTF?! Isn't this guy the Rhino, isn't he getting a movie called The Sinister Six with him in it? Isn't he a bad guy in THIS movie?! Yeah.. you won't see any development of this character.. sorry....

Instead we get the Gwen and Hayden Christensen-clone, I mean Peter Parker show. Don't get me wrong, they are perfectly cast, and perform well, but in a movie that felt like it was 2+ hours long, they fill a LOT of it. So does Spider-Man, but fighting grade school bullies, talking to bystanders, buying cold medicine, that kinda shit. Not fighting the antagonists.

So yeah, that's the movie..

Oh, and Electro.. lol......!

This version of Electro is way more powerful than he ever is in the comics. This guy is reminiscent Dr. Manhattan in how he comes to being, and how he can manifest himself into and out of reality. Understand that while there are some very recent versions of Electro, who has had his powers ridiculously exaggerated, none of them that I'm aware of can do the shit Jamie Foxx is doing in this movie.

Why is that important? Because Spider-Man can't defeat Dr. Manhattan, and this guy is kinda like Dr. Manhattan. He obviously has powers similar to the most powerful versions of Electro as well as powers of de-manifestation and flight, so how is Spider-Man supposed to stop this guy?! It's bullshit. And the way he dies is so fucking stupid.. It's like... ugh this is stupid... You don't have to be a comic book fan, it's just that fucking stupid.

As in.. If I'm on the power grid.. I'm tapping all this power right? But you going to kill me by using the power from the now drained grid, to overcharge me? I was just on the grid, I drained it completely.. What in the fuck are you talking about?

See? That kinda shit is just dumb.

Also, since when is Gwen Stacy smarter than Peter Parker? Peter Parker is a genius, he alwas has been. It's how he fights people, it's how he put together all the shit in his utility belt (that he doesn't wear for some reason). That entire aspect, that was very prominent in the first Amazing Spider-Man, is vacated to make room for Gwen Stacy's dialogue and functional purpose in the movie. It's also the idiotic reason she happened to find herself in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And that last part kills it....

Gwen Stacy's death is the most grave and memorable moment in Spider-Man's history. It's what defines the relationship between Spider-Man and the Green Goblin and it's why the Goblin really is Spider-Man's true archnemesis. So... why fuck it up so badly? Why make Stacy's death her own fault? Why make Parker's inexplicable and expositional momentary lack of intellect a cheap and lazy way to write Stacy into her own death scene?

Gwen Stacy is forced to explain how batteries work to Peter Parker.... by this point you're ready to leave the theater, but when she goes on the "I'm going with you to fight supervillains" speech, you seriously are about to yell at the screen.

Point being, she had no reason to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But what's worse is that her death in the comics makes sense. Green Goblin kidnaps her, and sets up a trap for Spider-Man dropping her off a bridge to her death. Spider-Man catches her, but the whiplash of the fall kills her (she doesn't hit the ground). Parker then chases down Goblin, defeats him, but can't kill him. The Goblin then tries to kill Spider-Man with his glider but accidentally kills himself.

Doesn't that sound familiar? Yeah, it should.. It's called Spider-Man with Tobey McGuire. The only difference is that they used Mary Jane Watson instead of Gwen Stacy and she doesn't die, she lives. Other than that, it's spot on the same. But it makes sense.... Why he did it, why she's there, why Spider-Man is pissed at him, the moral dilemma of killing out of revenge, and the Goblin's death.

Yeah, all of that.... yeah.. not here... Nope..

Oh, and the Goblin is literally in the movie for this scene ONLY.. O.N.L.Y. this scene.. THATS IT!! 5 minutes tops.

Fuck this movie...

So, Gwen's dead... cool.. Guess what, there's a guy in the street in a mech that looks ridiculous, and he's like, shooting shit. He's not robbing or doing anything of importance.. He's just in the middle of the street shooting shit, in a big ass mech!! What the fuck is this? THAT'S RHINO?!? What the fuck? He opens the cockpit and this ridiculous CG head of a guy is like "I'm da Rhino!" I'm like.. hell naw....

And... that's it. Movie fades, roll credits.. and the post-credit scene is just the fucking trailer to X-Men, I'd already saw half of what they showed on TV, so how the fuck is that worth sticking around after the credits?! And what does Mystique have to do with Spider-Man? Could this be any less thought out?!

Is this movie worth seeing?

No. It's actually not. In Hawaii this movie would've cost $30+ to see in 3D or IMAX 2D.. Here, I spent like $6 for both me and my wife, so I'm not complaining. But if I had paid US prices, I'd have been livid.

And why is Dennis Leary even in this movie? He doesn't say or do anything... And by the third time he appears it's just funny at this point. I'm just imagining him say "Fuck."

Amazing Spider-Man 2: 4 / 10.. This movie is ass.

So I just watched it last night, and the one thing that struck me above all else... if Electro is basically pure electrical energy and can materialize/de-materialize whenever he wants, why bother with a corporeal body that Spider-Man can kick and punch? Why not just live in power lines and just keep shocking him to death?
 
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I see a lot of hate for Amazing Spider-Man 2, so what is everyone's worst superhero movie of all time?

I'd say Batman and Robin are on most people's list. That's a given.

But man, the newest Superman was just really, really bad. Plot is here. Plot is there. He goes from hiding himself from the world to having the damn suit on in like a 5 minute span. Zod has some of the cheesiest damn lines this side of Adam West's Batman. Woo it was bad. Will not be spending a dime on the next Zach Snyder superhero flick.

Honorable mentions to the Tobey Macguire Spiderman movies, with a special nod to the third. That thing sucked. The non Edward Norton Hulk was also pretty terrible.
 
I vote for the 'other' avengers movie, based on a british tv series. its from the same period as schumacher batman and equally as bad. Man of steel sucked balls big time especially his seemingly disregard for collateral damage
 
I see a lot of hate for Amazing Spider-Man 2, so what is everyone's worst superhero movie of all time?

I'd say Batman and Robin are on most people's list. That's a given.

But man, the newest Superman was just really, really bad. Plot is here. Plot is there. He goes from hiding himself from the world to having the damn suit on in like a 5 minute span. Zod has some of the cheesiest damn lines this side of Adam West's Batman. Woo it was bad. Will not be spending a dime on the next Zach Snyder superhero flick.

Honorable mentions to the Tobey Macguire Spiderman movies, with a special nod to the third. That thing sucked. The non Edward Norton Hulk was also pretty terrible.

I didn't think the new Superman was that bad if you looked at it as an action movie. It was basically The Avengers minus Joss Whedon's sharp writing and razor wit, and it's always nice when Superman has villains to fight who can actually match him, rather than everyone just magically having kryptonite (which I'm convinced you can buy in convenience stores in the Superman universe), which is usually the case.

But yeah, the plot waffled quite a bit. I just don't think it's anywhere near the worst superhero movie of all time.

I think we have to rule out the final two Batman movies from the Burton/Schumacher era simply because those two films are just on a whole different level of terrible.

With that in mind, I'd go with Spider-Man 3 because, presumably, it was actually trying. It was just really, truly awful. Casting Topher fucking Grace as Eddie Brock? That has to go down in history as the absolute worst casting job in any superhero movie ever, and it failed about as spectacularly as I expected it to when I read the casting list. But that movie was just generally terrible too. Emo Peter Parker, that godawful dance number...honestly, that's all I really remember about the movie, and I'm still bitter they didn't rip off the Venom plot line from the Spidey cartoon from the nineties where Jameson's son brought the black substance back from space. It just seemed so perfect for a feature film, and even provided a great action scene (when the space shuttle crashes on the bridge in New York).

While the first two Spider-Man films were pretty good, I still think Raime was a bad choice to adapt the comic, and I hated how he made Spider-Man so boring. The new Spidey films at least seem to capture his character a hell of a lot better, even if the new film is terrible.
 
I think Batman & Robin is so bad that it makes every other superhero movie seem much better by default. And I am seriously worried about the new Ninja Turtles movie. Used to be my favorite cartoon along with Scooby Doo !
 
I think Batman & Robin is so bad that it makes every other superhero movie seem much better by default. And I am seriously worried about the new Ninja Turtles movie. Used to be my favorite cartoon along with Scooby Doo !


Worried?

The Turtles movie is going to take a giant shit all over itself.
 
I had fun watching the new Spider-Man movie. I think it has some lulls and upon examination it isn't an incredibly logical movie, but it was entertaining through big chunks of it.

It they handled a Batman movie with that lack of care I would have hated it though, so I totally get the criticism. As a casual Spiderman MOVIE fan, this was still better than Spiderman 3. And I haven't seen the first reboot one either. I think I liked it for the same reason I enjoyed Star Trek Into Darkness, I turned off expectations of logic and just waited for the stupid action sequences to rev me up. Oh fuck is Star Wars 7 gonna suck?
 

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