School Told to Call Kids ‘Purple Penguins’ Because ‘Boys and Girls’ Is Not Inclusive

[Jack Brickman]

Gender is a fact of nature, and schools are supposed to be teaching children about science, nature and reality. For an entire school to abandon that concept to satisfy the lunatic musing of some nutty parents is ridiculous. If you don't want your boy referred to as a boy, too fucking bad, because that's basically teaching the other children a false reality.

I don't really see how calling a kid what they want gets in the way of teaching.

 

[Soda]

I don't really see how calling a kid what they want gets in the way of teaching.

Are they going to stop acknowledging sex in animals as well? That's pretty damn important as species look/act/have differing characteristics based upon their sex.

 

[Phills14]

I read that all the way through thinking it was an Onion article.

Other items on the list include asking all students about their preferred pronouns and decorating the classroom with “all genders welcome” door hangers.

Furthermore, it instructs teachers to interfere and interrupt if they ever hear a student talking about gender in terms of “boys and girls” so the student can learn that this is wrong.

 

[Adam]

I think its time to use performance based nouns instead of pronouns. I will respect their gender neutrality but will call them all dummies if they are under performing.

I really dont get the whole gender neutrality argument, but i suppose thats just me being a man.

By specifically avoiding gender surely you imbue more power to the words as other children will see them as more significant than a generic way to typically address a group of mixed gender?

I just call everyone in my class 'guys' i have never had a complaint (and yes it is a mixed school)

Anyone from Thailand willing to chime in? i heard they have quite a complex gender issue in their schools

 

[Jack Brickman]

Are they going to stop acknowledging sex in animals as well? That's pretty damn important as species look/act/have differing characteristics based upon their sex.

Both my dogs identify as gender neutral.

Although admittedly that might be because I had their balls cut off.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I don't really see how calling a kid what they want gets in the way of teaching.

It gets in the way of teaching kids that gender exists among all animals, including humans. It also is undermines the concept of objective reality, which would really piss off Aristotle.

 

[Randolphkeys]

A few people might want to look up the definitions of the words "gender" and "sex" because there is a slight distinction between the words, just like ice and snow.

 

[Soda]

A few people might want to look up the definitions of the words "gender" and "sex" because there is a slight distinction between the words, just like ice and snow.

After looking up the definitions, it seems like kids would be double-fucked for talking about different sexes... Sounds like "gender" is a short way of saying "stereotypes based on sex".

Doesn't sound, to me, like saying "boys and girls" is anything but referring to the sex, not the "roles" within...

 

[Randolphkeys]

After looking up the definitions, it seems like kids would be double-fucked for talking about different sexes... Sounds like "gender" is a short way of saying "stereotypes based on sex".

Doesn't sound, to me, like saying "boys and girls" is anything but referring to the sex, not the "roles" within...

If you really are curious about the issue (yeah, pun intended) the distinction is that some kids are being raised "gender neutral," meaning that if a teacher were to say, "Boys against girls dodgeball game!" there would be an awkward moment for the kid(s) who are being raised gender neutral. The logic behind the parents' choices are that kids grow up being assigned a gender then discover after years of therapy that they really wanted to be the other gender. I myself don't subscribe to the philosophy, but I also know that a school runs better when every family feels welcome, no matter what differences they may have from how I was raised or how I am choosing to raise my kid.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

A few people might want to look up the definitions of the words "gender" and "sex" because there is a slight distinction between the words, just like ice and snow.

Well, there's always been a difference acknowledged between those two words, but it's not the one that is currently being pushed by the left coast nutcases. I imagine they've raided most of the online dictionaries to ensure they are complicit, but the rest of us shouldn't let them redefine our language or twist reality.

 

[Soda]

If you really are curious about the issue (yeah, pun intended) the distinction is that some kids are being raised "gender neutral," meaning that if a teacher were to say, "Boys against girls dodgeball game!" there would be an awkward moment for the kid(s) who are being raised gender neutral. The logic behind the parents' choices are that kids grow up being assigned a gender then discover after years of therapy that they really wanted to be the other gender. I myself don't subscribe to the philosophy, but I also know that a school runs better when every family feels welcome, no matter what differences they may have from how I was raised or how I am choosing to raise my kid.

I certainly understand and appreciate your vantage with this, but I guess I'm not following well. What the hell is a kid going to do if there's a dodgeball game that's "males against females"? Do we need to get to the point where we say, "if you have a cock, you're on the red team"?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

If you really are curious about the issue (yeah, pun intended) the distinction is that some kids are being raised "gender neutral," meaning that if a teacher were to say, "Boys against girls dodgeball game!" there would be an awkward moment for the kid(s) who are being raised gender neutral. The logic behind the parents' choices are that kids grow up being assigned a gender then discover after years of therapy that they really wanted to be the other gender. I myself don't subscribe to the philosophy, but I also know that a school runs better when every family feels welcome, no matter what differences they may have from how I was raised or how I am choosing to raise my kid.

I don't think a school "running better" is the right metric of success. If the school runs with less disruptions ("runs better") because you endorse every loony idea, and kids come out believing things that are not true, then the school has failed in its primary mission.

It really is no different from saying that kids shouldn't be assigned grades, or told that some art is superior to others, that some athletes are better than others, or that some grammar is more correct than others. Bleeding hearts will argue such things because they think that every time you tell a child they've done something incorrectly, it might bruise their fragile little egos. So everything is equally "right", and everything is of equal merit or value. Participation ribbons for all!

And that's just colossal bullshit. Kids need to learn what reality is, even if they don't like it.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Well, there's always been a difference acknowledged between those two words, but it's not the one that is currently being pushed by the left coast nutcases. I imagine they've raided most of the online dictionaries to ensure they are complicit, but the rest of us shouldn't let them redefine our language or twist reality.

Yes. Online dictionaries are out to get you and your way of life. They are the nut cases, not you. Truth of the matter is gender identity issues were first recognized as a psychological condition in the 1950s. It's a real condition. The parents who are doing the gender neutral thing are basing it on actual scientifically proven concerns, I just think it causes more problems for the kid than it cures, personally.

I certainly understand and appreciate your vantage with this, but I guess I'm not following well. What the hell is a kid going to do if there's a dodgeball game that's "males against females"? Do we need to get to the point where we say, "if you have a cock, you're on the red team"?

Again, this isn't a huge change for a school. I would just pick groupings of students according to ability level or some other factor. It is a small adjustment compared to other adjustments schools make all the time for things like emotional disturbances in a kid, a physical disability in a kid, autism, etc.

 

[MattyFos.]

Someone needs to get it through these idiots heads that you don't pick a gender. Calling a boy a purple pumpkin doesn't change genetics.

 

[Notorious]

The "progressives" are officially as bat shit crazy as the right wing. God help this country.