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Sir'Dominic Pointer - A Cleveland Cavalier

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If he can maintain his finishing rate he currently has he might have a chance to be an NBA player, even if he never makes a jumper. He will need to be an elite perimeter defender though, he has the tools and the motor though
 
I just finished the Milwaukee preseason game footage, and I'm starting to believe. I still have absolutely no idea what Christmas and Pointer can actually do offensively because of horrendous ball movement from the ball hogging scrubs.
 
If he can maintain his finishing rate he currently has he might have a chance to be an NBA player, even if he never makes a jumper. He will need to be an elite perimeter defender though, he has the tools and the motor though

Well he does have 2p% of .56 ..
I wonder what is his % at the rim though.
 
I just finished the Milwaukee preseason game footage, and I'm starting to believe. I still have absolutely no idea what Christmas and Pointer can actually do offensively because of horrendous ball movement from the ball hogging scrubs.

This is what gets me in summer league. A bad player can look good and a good player can look bad. Basically in a system if I am a GM I go with Christmas. If I am a middle of the road upcoming team I go with Pointer. The reason being Pointer is not what we need now as a back up to LeBron but to a team like the Nets or 76ers he would fit in fine. Christmas is a lot like a younger T.T with a player like LeBron he could be a nice trade chip or Thompson as in his replacement if it comes to that. I would keep Christmas before Pointer as of now.
 
This is what gets me in summer league. A bad player can look good and a good player can look bad. Basically in a system if I am a GM I go with Christmas. If I am a middle of the road upcoming team I go with Pointer. The reason being Pointer is not what we need now as a back up to LeBron but to a team like the Nets or 76ers he would fit in fine. Christmas is a lot like a younger T.T with a player like LeBron he could be a nice trade chip or Thompson as in his replacement if it comes to that. I would keep Christmas before Pointer as of now.

Hard to give up on Pointer after what I have seen, the kid has so many intangibles,
He has fire and will to be better, his jump shot isn't even broken, he is a really good finisher, he is fast and a high flyer..
I really wish the Cavs could dump Mike Miller some how or other scrub.
 
Hard to give up on Pointer after what I have seen, the kid has so many intangibles,
He has fire and will to be better, his jump shot isn't even broken, he is a really good finisher, he is fast and a high flyer..
I really wish the Cavs could dump Mike Miller some how or other scrub.

He Is will be a in a few years a new MKG and that is not saying much. He will help us or any team but he is no better than the good NBA defender who can't do anything else yet. He will grow but I doubt it is with out team.
 
He Is will be a in a few years a new MKG and that is not saying much. He will help us or any team but he is no better than the good NBA defender who can't do anything else yet. He will grow but I doubt it is with out team.

Then why did the Cavs even draft him for?
They must feel good about something and I can see why.
 
Then why did the Cavs even draft him for?
They must feel good about something and I can see why.

Because he's one step ahead of the game? Defense is 75% mental, 25% athleticism. LeBron could win DPOY every single year, no questions asked if he wanted to.

SDP actually understands that his defense will get him into the league, just like Delly does. The difference between SDP and Delly is that SDP might actually be a turnover machine on the defensive end (he might be one of those guards that averages 1.5 and .5 steal/block), with high offensive upside because he's relatively crafty with the basketball, and seems to be a great off ball cutter.
 
Saw the game tying layup, that first move he made had me like :adoration:
 
Saw the game tying layup, that first move he made had me like :adoration:

I posted the clip in the summer league game 1 thread. I feel like the fact that he tipped the inbounds pass on the play before, causing the turnover, to be more impressive. Really easy for young players to lose focus down by 2 with under 10 seconds left and not having possession of the ball.
 
Right now I would keep him over Christmas.

People always think that Christmas has potential because he has size and long arms, and just physically he has excellent length. But the truth is he wasn't that good in college and so far he isn't that good in summer league either. He has an average motor and is not all that skilled.

If you watch Pointer's college highlights, you will see a whole variety of things -- blocks, passing, finishing, and steals. Everything but jump shooting. If you watch Christmas' college highlights you will mostly just see a tall guy with long arms dunking over a lot of shorter guys.
 
My one caution with either of these young guys is that final roster decisions should never be made based off a summer league performance. Summer league is effectively a phone interview for an NBA team. If you don't look like a complete waste, you'll be brought in to camp and given a chance to compete.

Pointer hasn't hurt himself, neither has Christmas IMO. They'll both be given chances but it is still more likely, at least to me, that Christmas is retained given his draft slot and position.

That's not to say SDP can't make the team, he probably can in some scenario it's just to point out that summer league is a very small piece of the evaluation process. It's a setup where a player who can create for himself will always look better than someone who cannot, because it's not a setting in which guys consistently share the ball. So for someone like Christmas, who's going to be asked to rebound and defend at the NBA level and rely on teammates for any offense, he's not going to do anything sexy in summer league.
 
My one caution with either of these young guys is that final roster decisions should never be made based off a summer league performance. Summer league is effectively a phone interview for an NBA team. If you don't look like a complete waste, you'll be brought in to camp and given a chance to compete.

Pointer hasn't hurt himself, neither has Christmas IMO. They'll both be given chances but it is still more likely, at least to me, that Christmas is retained given his draft slot and position.

That's not to say SDP can't make the team, he probably can in some scenario it's just to point out that summer league is a very small piece of the evaluation process. It's a setup where a player who can create for himself will always look better than someone who cannot, because it's not a setting in which guys consistently share the ball. So for someone like Christmas, who's going to be asked to rebound and defend at the NBA level and rely on teammates for any offense, he's not going to do anything sexy in summer league.

My only issue is that Xmas has looked weak boxing out players for rebounds and often ends up under the net. He also gets lost on defense sometimes. (He also desperately needs a post game.) I believe with time and getting stronger he will do these things better but at the moment he is definitely a project.


Edit: which is as expected for a 2nd rounder
 

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