Star Wars: The Force Awakens teaser #2

[gourimoko]

Next batch of Star Wars rumors:

Andy Serkis' character is named "Supreme Leader Snoke". He is doing motion capture for the role, so seems obvious the character is not human.

Indeed.

One rumor is that he's actually Darth Plageuis. I don't like this rumor.

Another rumor is that he's Darth Bane. Even though this would make less sense on multiple levels, I love Bane's character, so I hope this is true.

None of that would make a lick of sense though..

 

[-Akronite-]

At this point I really hope that they stray as far away from EU stuff as possible. The kind of discussion it breeds is already tiresome with the number of comic book movies out there. Every time a new movie comes out it's a rumor mill and spoilers abound talking about how this guy is gonna play this character which means it may all lead to this story arc. PLEASE just make something original in the Star Wars universe instead of feeding into that kind of culture.

I know it's too late for Marvel, because their whole deal is drawing people in to get invested in more and more characters, regardless of the size of their role, by cramming as many as they can into each movie. I don't want Star Wars to become that. It's tiresome.

I'm sure the EU has a ton to offer in terms of story and characters, but the discussion is gonna become about how they fucked up this character or that story or WOW it was so awesome when this guy was teased- I don't give a fuck about that shit. As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I don't want to have to go onto Wikipedia to read up on the context and figure out what the fuck is going on and why it matters. Just make a new compelling story or your wasting my time. We don't need another reference crazy Easter Egg hunt devoted to fan service when you have perhaps the most captivating fictional universe ever on your hands.

Then again, I dislike the prequels enough to essentially disregard their inconsistent story as canon, so maybe I'm not the guy they're trying to please.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Then again, I dislike the prequels enough to essentially disregard their inconsistent story as canon, so maybe I'm not the guy they're trying to please.

I'm totally on board for pretending the prequels didn't happen.

Maybe we'll get lucky and in a few years they'll remake them and hire an actual screenwriter who knows about things like pacing, writing dialogue, how human relationships work, and how to write a coherent plot. Now that Lucas isn't behind the wheel any more, it could actually happen! It won't, but it could!

 

[gourimoko]

Revan is non canon currently. That does not mean that can't change.

As for EA farming out to dev teams: I would be surprised if their deal allows for that. I certainly don't know for sure, I am not privy to that kind of info, but would be shocked if it allowed for that. I'd be equally shocked if EA farmed it out regardless of the contract.

Why?

Most publishers have working relationships with outside development teams; for quite a few things. Rockstar did this with GTA V retaining both lead development and publishing status.

 

[TyGuy]

I disagree. I think KOTOR 2 had a deeper story, better dialogue, and more interesting antagonists.

KOTOR I was the more accessible story; simpler. You're the hero, there's the bad guy, kill him = win.

KOTOR II, there were no winners and losers. It's just a much more complex story.

I'm a fan of both games, but I thought Darth Malak was as bad ass as it got for a villain. Atton was way better than Carth because you could turn him into a jedi killing machine.

 

[TyGuy]

I'm totally on board for pretending the prequels didn't happen.

Maybe we'll get lucky and in a few years they'll remake them and hire an actual screenwriter who knows about things like pacing, writing dialogue, how human relationships work, and how to write a coherent plot. Now that Lucas isn't behind the wheel any more, it could actually happen! It won't, but it could!

I would like them to visit another timeline and a different cast of characters. The skywalker lineage has been showcased to death at this point and the star wars universe has endless possibilities. We also already know what happens for the most part, and there isn't much suspense when you know the ultimate outcome. They should absolutely have movies or a television show that explores the genesis of the jedi order as well as the sith. Build a deep back story and hopefully flush a lot of shit down the toilet. The idea of jedi's being Catholic priest like peace keepers is incredibly boring.

 

[MD13]

I'm a fan of both games, but I thought Darth Malak was as bad ass as it got for a villain. Atton was way better than Carth because you could turn him into a jedi killing machine.

I thought Malak was your typical brute bad guy, kind of like Sion was in the 2nd. On the other hand, i thought Treya was the best written villain in SW history. Didnt they have a character exactly like her turn Jacen?

 

[theSwayze]

Cool new infographic of new Disney defined SW canon. So much new star wars on it way...

http://www.outerplaces.com/star-wars-timeline/

 

[col63onel]

Cool new infographic of new Disney defined SW canon. So much new star wars on it way...

http://www.outerplaces.com/star-wars-timeline/

I am currently reading "Lords of Sith". It's a "meh" story, but Paul Kemp is one of my favorite SW authors. I'll read "Aftermath", but other than that, I can't get into any more EU stuff. Maybe once after the new movies hit, I'll get reinvigorated with the new EU, but for now, I am EU'd out.

 

[Jack Brickman]

There are some really uninspired titles (meaning the titles themselves, not necessarily the content) in that infographic. Come on, Disney, at least put some effort into these names.

 

[DCunleaded]

I just picked up 'A New Dawn', which seems like a precursor to the SW Rebels series. I'll start it today.

EDIT: I just saw it is listed on the new SW canon

 

[Chris]

I'm fully aware that Mass Effect 2 was developed under EA. But that's kind of the point. It was the last really good game BioWare has made, and it came out five and a half years ago.

As far as Inquisition goes, critics seemed to love it a hell of a lot more than gamers (compare its 85-90 critic score to its 7.4 user score on Metacritic), and I don't put a whole lot of stock in critics these days after numerous fiascos and the obvious conflict of interest that comes with review sites taking tons of advertising money from the companies they are supposed to be providing unbiased reviews for. I also think that Inquisition got inflated review scores because it was a marked improvement on the Dragon Age II disaster. It looked and felt the part of a big budget, next-gen BioWare RPG. It just lacked the soul.

I also think critics have low bars these days. If a AAA game comes out and it isn't an abject disaster, it gets 8 or 9/10.



I lost interest about midway through Inquisition, but I honestly couldn't tell you what the fuck happened in the twenty or so hours I played. It's just totally forgettable. The only characters I even remember are that dwarf that was in the second game (I think) and the Inquisition chick with the sexy accent, and I can't name either of them. That wouldn't be a problem if the game was like ten years old, but I played it like six months ago!

I can name ten characters in Witcher 3 just off the top of my head. Including ones I haven't interacted with in the game since before my trip to Europe in June.

I know this is still off topic, but I'm only 10 hours into DA: I before I went off to play other games, but I was certainly enjoying the game and plan to return to it (as long as Witcher 3 doesn't turn me off of it )

I think it's a good game. Critic reviews aren't always reliable, but Metacritic user reviews aren't the holy grail, either. Just a quick glance at them sees some trolls rating the game a 0/10 and a 3/10, which are absurdly low even for someone that isn't a fan of the game.

 

[gourimoko]

I know this is still off topic, but I'm only 10 hours into DA: I before I went off to play other games, but I was certainly enjoying the game and plan to return to it (as long as Witcher 3 doesn't turn me off of it )

I think it's a good game. Critic reviews aren't always reliable, but Metacritic user reviews aren't the holy grail, either. Just a quick glance at them sees some trolls rating the game a 0/10 and a 3/10, which are absurdly low even for someone that isn't a fan of the game.

People don't like the game because it doesn't compare to DA: Origins. If you've played Origins (and beat the game), then it's apparent why folks think Inquisition is such a let down.

 

[Jack Brickman]

People don't like the game because it doesn't compare to DA: Origins. If you've played Origins (and beat the game), then it's apparent why folks think Inquisition is such a let down.

I thought it was a decent game. It was nowhere near the buggy mess that Dragon Age II was. But when you play it, and particularly after playing Witcher 3, it's just apparent that the story is missing something. It says a lot that I couldn't tell you a single thing that happened in the story just a few months later. I remember being initially impressed with the world size (again, in comparison to DA2) and visuals, but I was never really engaged in the story at all, and that's a problem for a game that is almost entirely built around its campaign. If the gameplay were amazing, that would be one thing, but the combat kind of just plays itself (basically, as a mage, you run around in circles and spam attacks when their cool down ends), and you spend more time picking flowers than fighting despite having a vast army of followers who could be doing menial tasks like that for you.

The problem, as mentioned numerous times, is that it's effectively impossible to go back and play DA:I after playing Witcher 3 because it's just so apparent where the former is lacking.

 

[Chris]

People don't like the game because it doesn't compare to DA: Origins. If you've played Origins (and beat the game), then it's apparent why folks think Inquisition is such a let down.

Haven't played it and won't ever. I don't wish to dispute anybody's opinion of the game, simply gave my own based on the ~10 hours I played. I plan to return to it eventually, probably not until later in the year. Yes, I'm way behind on my games.