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The Brian Hoyer thread...

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Browns obviously fear serious knee injury for Brian Hoyer. Exited with crutches, couldnt put weight on it. Too swollen to get clear MRI read</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/385984569645604864">October 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Don't worry nobody is listening anyway.

I'm still really angry about those touchbacks...
 
Reminds me of RG3's injury last year.

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I will wonder if, in retrospect, this is a penalty/fine. Helmet to helmet Head shot on a QB starting his slide, injury results.

absolutely should be a fine.

but the injury was his own damn fault.
 
absolutely should be a fine.

but the injury was his own damn fault.

If you are saying he should have shifted his center of gravity back during the slide, I agree. That said, the defender took some liberties.
 
The slide was late. I'll be surprised if the nfl does anything.
 
That looks more like a torn MCL IM(extremely unscientific)O
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23browns&amp;src=hash">#browns</a> Chud wouldn't elaborate on telling nfl network that he fears Hoyer has torn ligaments. Just Said sprain, MRI</p>&mdash; Mary Kay Cabot (@MaryKayCabot) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/statuses/385978503801225216">October 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I fear an unhappy triad injury . He hyperextended the knee and twisted it with the hit.
 
You couldn't see two more cursed franchises taking the field tonight. Tonight's game showed a lot of that curseness displayed in front of a national audience.
 
You couldn't see two more cursed franchises taking the field tonight. Tonight's game showed a lot of that curseness displayed in front of a national audience.

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At least they never made this "kick in the balls" commercial about us...
 
I heard ligaments when I was at the game. :(
Cleveland...
 

From this angle left knee bends awkwardly however, the reports are that the injury is to his RIGHT knee. After Alonso goes through Hoyer you can see Hoyer's right foot give way and you can see the awkward angle it has.

This view is from the front. You can see he puts his right leg out to slide but his cleat gets caught and he gets twisted over it.

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absolutely should be a fine.

but the injury was his own damn fault.

What? He gave himself up and in doing so was opened up to a cheap shot. It was the impact and weight of the defensive player that caused the injury. Hoyer starts his slide and takes a helmet to the head from behind. It's absolutely an illegal hit, based on what the NFL tells players about steering clear of a QB trying to go down.

More than anything I feel terrible for Hoyer. I'm not sure if the kid had what it takes to be a long term starter. But now he might never get a shot. Brutal.
 
Yea I have no idea why that wasn't called a personal foul. The ball carrier, a QB for that matter, is sliding feet first giving himself up. So a penalty should be assessed for that at minimum. Add in the helmet to helmet aspect of the defender leading with his helmet and I'm stunned there was no call. Forget Hoyer getting hurt, that looks cut and dry on multiple levels.
 
not looking good for hoyer here:

Tom Reed‏@treed19191m
According to @caplannfl, early word on Brian Hoyer's knee injury is ACL tear, source said. But MRI results are not available yet.
 

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