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supermario21 said:
This thread is depressing though...had we drafted Jonas, let him stay over in Lithuania another year, and tanked even harder, we could have won the next lottery. Imagine us with a front line of Davis and Valanciunas with Andy off the bench and Kyrie Irving at PG.
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Uh...a team with 21 wins won the lottery in 2011. We had 21 wins too. We just lost a coin flip.
 
Löttery Göd said:
Or we could have drafted Valanciunas, which would have completely changed the team's course of events, utlimately leading to us, more likely than not, NOT winning the 2014 NBA lottery due to the butterfly effect, which means we don't get our superstar from this draft. We finally have a reason to be happy that we didn't draft Valanciunas!

Also, you do realize that, even if we had "tanked harder" the next season that we'd still only have a 25% chance of winning it, right?
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That's how I came to terms with the Bulls trading Lamarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas, haha. Bulls never would have got Derrick Rose!
 
Do people still not understand that changing the fact that we won the 2012 coin flip to losing it could have changed future events such as which combination was drawn from the lottery machine, thus potentially changing who won? Had we lost the coin flip, it still wouldn't have guaranteed that we would've won the lottery. Perhaps, for example, the person who was carrying the brief case to the room where the lottery was held had an extra bounce in his step because he was a Pelicans fan and was happy his team won the coin flip. Because of this extra bounce in his step, the ping pong balls got juggled around and slightly shifted in the case. That could've completely changed the balls' trajectories once they entered into the machine, which would have 1,000/1,001 times led to a different combination being drawn. Hell, had we lost the coin flip, it could've led to whoever had the 3rd pick win the lottery.
 
Löttery Göd said:
Do people still not understand that changing the fact that we won the 2012 coin flip to losing it could have changed future events such as which combination was drawn from the lottery machine, thus potentially changing who won? Had we lost the coin flip, it still wouldn't have guaranteed that we would've won the lottery. Perhaps, for example, the person who was carrying the brief case to the room where the lottery was held had an extra bounce in his step because he was a Pelicans fan and was happy his team won the coin flip. Because of this extra bounce in his step, the ping pong balls got juggled around and slightly shifted in the case. That could've completely changed the balls' trajectories once they entered into the machine, which would have 1,000/1,001 times led to a different combination being drawn. Hell, had we lost the coin flip, it could've led to whoever had the 3rd pick win the lottery.
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Super deep, man. Lottery God dropping butterfly effect knowledge.
 
Numbers Guy said:
Super deep, man. Lottery God dropping butterfly effect knowledge.
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It's true though. The sequence of historical events aren't just plug-and-play with nothing else being affected. Hell, even different people could be dead or alive today based on whether or not we won or lost that coin flip.
 
I think if Cavs won't take Embiid it will bigger disapointment then it was with JV. If he will live up to those expectations that scouts make i think u can be happy if u select him. I was certain till that draft day that JV will play here also, i hope im not rooting for the wrong guy again...
 
JV plays with more wasted movement than any player I've ever seen. Just not sure why he does some of the things he does with his body when it's completely unnecessary. It drives me crazy when I watch him play.
 
At this point in time I am happy with all the decisions the cavs made essentially because we ended up with the #1 pick in a loaded draft. Had we stayed at 9 I would still be pissed we took Tristan over Jonas and blew assets on on 1 year rentals for both Deng and Hawes, and i'm sure a few other stupid decisions we made that escape me at the moment. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good because this one event changed the course of this franchise. It was totally worth it blowing our 4th pick and burning valuable assets for a failed short term return to end up where we are now. Now, lets just not press our luck here because we have had plenty of it, time to make wise decisions from here on out.

People were half jokingly(I know some people were serious though) saying we should tank one more year to get a shot at a top selection in this draft, and we got it by doing everything possible to make the playoffs, it is quite mind boggling really. Our situation looked absolutely abysmal and now it has never looked brighter.

I have to go back and find that thread though where it went off course and somebody made a joke at the expense of Lottery god and how he jinxed this team. I and everybody else on this forum repped it because it was quite clever and funny, but holy crap did the opposite turn out to be true.

I knew there was a reason we kept passing on every center that was gift wrapped to us. They just weren't quite hall of fame caliber enough.
 
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qaws23 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Raptors sophomore Jonas Valanciunas will workout with Hakeem Olajuwon this summer.</p>— Brett Poirier NBA (@BrettNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/statuses/463345522896814080">May 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Jonas spent some time with Hakeem this summer and I think he made some progress. This was a move he used in Lithuanian national team practice a couple days ago.

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TyGuy said:
At this point in time I am happy with all the decisions the cavs made essentially because we ended up with the #1 pick in a loaded draft. Had we stayed at 9 I would still be pissed we took Tristan over Jonas and blew assets on on 1 year rentals for both Deng and Hawes, and i'm sure a few other stupid decisions we made that escape me at the moment. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good because this one event changed the course of this franchise. It was totally worth it blowing our 4th pick and burning valuable assets for a failed short term return to end up where we are now. Now, lets just not press our luck here because we have had plenty of it, time to make wise decisions from here on out.

People were half jokingly(I know some people were serious though) saying we should tank one more year to get a shot at a top selection in this draft, and we got it by doing everything possible to make the playoffs, it is quite mind boggling really. Our situation looked absolutely abysmal and now it has never looked brighter.

I have to go back and find that thread though where it went off course and somebody made a joke at the expense of Lottery god and how he jinxed this team. I and everybody else on this forum repped it because it was quite clever and funny, but holy crap did the opposite turn out to be true.

I knew there was a reason we kept passing on every center that was gift wrapped to us. They just weren't quite hall of fame caliber enough.
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It has been alluded to that drafting TT was a solid to Rich Paul who then delivered LBJ in 2014. I take TT and LBJ over JV.
 
Jstock12 said:
Jonas spent some time with Hakeem this summer and I think he made some progress. This was a move he used in Lithuanian national team practice a couple days ago.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Next <a href="https://twitter.com/JValanciunas">@JValanciunas</a> workout with Hakeem will be after World Cup in Spain.</p>&mdash; Algimantas Bružas (@BruzasA) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruzasA/statuses/493733783267323904">July 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:):):)
 
Didnt Donatas Motiejonas workout with hakeem
 
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