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I think that's what I'm most curious about is where Stannis is going. I expected him to be much more vehement in rejecting Melisandre's proposal to sacrifice Shireen...I fear that that is honestly going to happen. Ugh.

I can't imagine Stannis would do that... Especially after that nice moment they had together a couple of eps back. If it happens it's because Stannis gets hurt and Mel/Selyse do it behind his back.
 
You feel like it's gotta start getting into the action packed episodes with only 3 episodes left..

and I will go ahead and comment as well, she did have some nice baby suckers on her. I pulled the ol' Peter Griffin, "Good for her.....good for her" line. My gf hit me then pulled open her shirt. So I would say that's a win-win for me :chuckle:
 
So they've started casting for season six and it looks like we'll finally get... Drumroll please...

Euron effing Greyjoy.

"Pirate, man in his 40’s to late 50’s. He’s “an infamous pirate who has terrorized seas all around the world. Cunning, ruthless, with a touch of madness.”
  • He’s a dangerous-looking man. A very good part this season."
Or they're trolling with that description and everyone will be intensely pissed. Also looks like Randyll Tarly and more of Sam's family will be in.

Via Watchersonthewall.com
 
Furthermore, some of this stuff is just lazy. I couldn't help but laugh at the "great games!" being held in Meereen, which Dany was to bear witness to. We arrive at it and it literally looks like some setup in a guy's backyard.

Those weren't the Great Games. They were supposed to be some low-rent games that were held sort of as "qualifiers" at more low-rent locations prior to the Great Games. That's essentially what Dany's husband said at the beginning of that scene. Sort of like spring training for pit fighters.

I did like the whole change (from the books) that got Tyrion, Danys, and Jorah all in the same place without a 1000 pages of dicking around.

I wonder if the general viewer finds the high sparrow a sympathetic figure and are rooting for him. "You are the few, we are the many" #occupyWesteros

Exactly, just like the books. Actually, kind of classic Martin in that he mixed (or maybe ignored) the usual tropes of "right wing-religious nuts" with "left wing radical egalitarianism", into something that defies direct comparison to modern events, and defies the expectations (of at least some) as a whole. It's Westeros, not the 21st century western world with all its baggage.

@MalTalm made the claim that the High Sparrow had been twisted in last weeks' episode into more of a right-wing figure so as to appeal to an American audience. I personally did not see last week's episode the same way at all, but here's his point:

The church acting as a power serving the far right seems to be done solely to appease the American fanbase as it's how Americans expect a religious entity to act. Yet in the books, the movement comes from the far left, which makes far more sense given the circumstances of the people in Flea Bottom, but the showrunners apparently didn't trust the viewers to understand how an extreme leftist movement could become violent. (See: Bolshevik revolution)

This week's episode made it pretty clear that the showrunners were not changing the story "solely to appease the American fanbase", and that they weren't untrusting of the viewers regarding an "extreme leftist movement." In the books, the High Sparrow was both a religious zealot and an egalitarian crusader.

I mention this because it illustrates what I see as a trap of trying to view either the series or the books through some modern social/political framework, whether it be feminism, progressivism, conservatism, etc.. Once you start viewing the series with our modern biases/perspectives, it's easy to either 1) see things that just aren't there, 2) misperceive what Martin is trying to do, or 3) become angry because either GRRM or the showrunners didn't do what they were "supposed" to do to comport with the expectations of ideologically-motivated viewers.

This has been going on with ASOIAF since the late 90's, with all sorts of message board theories and arguments focusing (very often) on feminist themes, especially regarding Sansa. While I don't see anything wrong with looking at a story and drawing analogies from particular situations to make a larger point, I think that approach goes off the rails when it starts making predictions about what will (and should) happen.

There's a veritable army out there convinced that Sansa Stark and Sandor Clegane are one of the great romantic storylines of the last century.

I shit you not.
 
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So they've started casting for season six and it looks like we'll finally get... Drumroll please...

Euron effing Greyjoy.

"Pirate, man in his 40’s to late 50’s. He’s “an infamous pirate who has terrorized seas all around the world. Cunning, ruthless, with a touch of madness.”
  • He’s a dangerous-looking man. A very good part this season."
Or they're trolling with that description and everyone will be intensely pissed. Also looks like Randyll Tarly and more of Sam's family will be in.

Via Watchersonthewall.com

Very cool, although I wonder just a bit because he's characterized as a "pirate" not a "Viking", though there's obvious overlap. Anyway, seems like they're still doing the ironborn being the ones who bring Danys to Westeros, but skipping a lot of intermediate stuff.

The Randyll Tarly bit is interesting because it could go either way. He could be strengthening the hand of the Tyrells.by marching on KL, or he could be weakening their hand if he ends up battling with pirate guy around Highgarden. I'd guess the former, though, because otherwise it's just inventing another subplot/location when the showrunners are already pressed for time.
 
Those weren't the Great Games. They were supposed to be some low-rent games that were held sort of as "qualifiers" at more low-rent locations prior to the Great Games. That's essentially what Dany's husband said at the beginning of that scene. Sort of like spring training for pit fighters.

I did like the whole change (from the books) that got Tyrion, Danys, and Jorah all in the same place without a 1000 pages of dicking around.

Yeah, caught that on my second viewing, and it makes sense seeing as in the trailer we see Jorah fighitng in a much bigger arena (although this begs the question...does Dany reject him AGAIN and sentence him to die in the arena?).

Still thought the scene was weak as fuck.
 
Screw you for having that avatar. Now I can't get that dudes smooth, calming jazz voice out of my head.
Q-Tip went avi-less for, like, years, and then just drops in with the Trivago guy??
 
Q-Tip went avi-less for, like, years, and then just drops in with the Trivago guy??

Well, I value consistency. I figured that since my incessant arguing probably made a lot of people want to punch me in the face, my avatar should match the face-punchability of my posts.

And who better for that than Trivago guy?

Okay, maybe Skip Bayless. But I figured my posting quality would suck even more if I was compelled to punch myself in the face incessantly.
 
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High point of this season of GoT is that its gotten me to start reading the books - i was halfway through book one when i quit and i started 2 days ago and now im halfway through book 2.
 
High point of this season of GoT is that its gotten me to start reading the books - i was halfway through book one when i quit and i started 2 days ago and now im halfway through book 2.

I think finishing the books might be why I'm not as keen on this season as others, so many cool bits glossed over and all the twists are known. Hurry up Martin!
 
I just can't get past them not incorporating the Manderlys somehow. That Davos/Wyman arc is by far my favorite piece from the books that got cut from the show.
 
I just can't get past them not incorporating the Manderlys somehow. That Davos/Wyman arc is by far my favorite piece from the books that got cut from the show.

Completely agree. That whole thing at White Harbor, the Frey pies, etc. was my favorite part. A whispered "the North Remembers" by a refugee from the Golden Girls didn't carry the same punch.

I get that they had to reduce the number of locations, combine scenes, etc. It's why Sam probably isn't going to Oldtown, why Sansa and Brienne are in Winterfell, why we lost Victarion, etc.

Still sucks, though.
 

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