The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Jack Brickman]

Also, re-watching season one, I really can't imagine how batshit fucking crazy this show must be to people who haven't read the books.

 

[Rich]

"The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling, blood red sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, locked in carnal, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed."

Sigh. I'll never get to see this Euron come to life, will I George?

 

[Jack Brickman]

"The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling, blood red sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, locked in carnal, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed."

Sigh. I'll never get to see this Euron come to life, will I George?

The fact that they bothered casting Euron at all seems to imply that he'll do something of note. He's obviously going to be central to Theon's redemption arc, although it's hard to say if the book is going to go that route since we have no idea where Theon and Asha end up after Winterfell.

 

[Rich]

The fact that they bothered casting Euron at all seems to imply that he'll do something of note. He's obviously going to be central to Theon's redemption arc, although it's hard to say if the book is going to go that route since we have no idea where Theon and Asha end up after Winterfell.

We're not going to get anything like the above.

I mean they removed his fucked up eye, and his blood sacrifices, and his warlocks and his valyrian mail and his dragon horn. So, whatever his ultimate point is, he's not nearly as cool in getting there.

 

[Jack Brickman]

We're not going to get anything like the above.

I mean they removed his fucked up eye, and his blood sacrifices, and his warlocks and his valyrian mail and his dragon horn. So, whatever his ultimate point is, he's not nearly as cool in getting there.

Perhaps in the books it's Euron who steals one of Dany's dragons and takes down the Wall? I've long assumed he's working with the Others due to the timing of his return and the way he has all that obvious evil mysticism surrounding him.

 

[Stark]

Sounds like I need to read the books at a far faster pace than I currently am. Euron sounds like a complete badass.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Sounds like I need to read the books at a far faster pace than I currently am. Euron sounds like a complete badass.

He's basically an entirely different character in the books. The show version kind of seems like they merged him with his brother Victarion.

 

[Jack Brickman]

All the Dany scenes in season two are poisoned for me because all I can think about when Xaro Xhoan Daxos is on screen is that they keep calling him duck sauce.

 

[Rich]

rewatching season 1 and knowing the soundtracks and themes later on, they sorta gave away who was behind everything early on. Not once, but twice, they rolled the credits with Baelish's theme, even though Baelish wasn't in the last scene. First, in the episode ending with Caitlyn seizing Tyrion, and then the next episode when Jaime attacks Ned.

They didn't actually reveal any of that in canon until season 4. And we didn't know Baelish was the one who tried to kill Bran until season 7. Pretty cool foreshadowing using music.

 

[Ohio]

rewatching season 1 and knowing the soundtracks and themes later on, they sorta gave away who was behind everything early on. Not once, but twice, they rolled the credits with Baelish's theme, even though Baelish wasn't in the last scene. First, in the episode ending with Caitlyn seizing Tyrion, and then the next episode when Jaime attacks Ned.

They didn't actually reveal any of that in canon until season 4. And we didn't know Baelish was the one who tried to kill Bran until season 7. Pretty cool foreshadowing using music.

How do you know who has what music?

 

[Rich]

How do you know who has what music?

Just paying close attention I guess.

You hear the whole theme during his chaos is a ladder speech. And again when he kills lysa.

Just very awesome the way the show uses music.

Read up and I guess the theme first gets introduced when Caitlyn gets thenletter about Jon arryn being dead.

Very cool.

 

[Jack Brickman]

rewatching season 1 and knowing the soundtracks and themes later on, they sorta gave away who was behind everything early on. Not once, but twice, they rolled the credits with Baelish's theme, even though Baelish wasn't in the last scene. First, in the episode ending with Caitlyn seizing Tyrion, and then the next episode when Jaime attacks Ned.

They didn't actually reveal any of that in canon until season 4. And we didn't know Baelish was the one who tried to kill Bran until season 7. Pretty cool foreshadowing using music.

Wasn't it Joffrey who tried to kill Bran?

 

[Rich]

Wasn't it Joffrey who tried to kill Bran?

Well Littlefinger lied about losing the Dagger to Tyrion. He lost it to Robert.

Tyrion and Jaime seem to deduce that Joffrey hired the assassin but I think last season at least makes it clear that Baelish might have guided him towards that choice.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Well Littlefinger lied about losing the Dagger to Tyrion. He lost it to Robert.

Tyrion and Jaime seem to deduce that Joffrey hired the assassin but I think last season at least makes it clear that Baelish might have guided him towards that choice.

The book basically confirms it was Joffrey.

I also don't know how, realistically, it could have been Littlefinger. He wasn't in Winterfell with the king's party. He was still at King's Landing. He couldn't possibly have known that Bran would witness Jaime and Cercei banging it out and then be pushed to the ground and crippled. I think he simply took the opportunity when Catelyn asked him about the knife to further stoke the fires of the Lannister/Stark rivalry by saying that the knife belonged to Tyrion.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I'd also note that the book points out that Joffrey didn't try to kill Bran from any particular hatred toward him. He simply heard Robert drunkenly talking about how it would be a mercy to put Bran out of his misery rather than have him live a cripple and Joffrey took it upon himself to try to make that happen. It was him trying to make his father (or at least the man who he thinks is his father at this point), who all but ignored him, proud.

I always appreciated the irony that the event that truly escalated things between the Starks and Lannisters was just a random act of stupidity by an evil kid who was trying to make his asshole father proud of him. Things might have turned out very differently had Joffrey not hired that cutthroat. Tyrion certainly never gets captured by Cat, which is what started the war in the Riverlands.