The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Amherstcavsfan]

I still hope Sam somehow ends up on the Iron Throne when it's all said and done. Especially show Sam, who is awesome. Book Sam is still kind of a pussy.

I won't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind. He's already a lord, he's become maybe the smartest man on the show and hasn't done anything to put himself in true danger.

And he has a Valarian Sword.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I won't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind. He's already a lord, he's become maybe the smartest man on the show and hasn't done anything to put himself in true danger.

And he has a Valarian Sword.

Sam for King. Davos for Hand.

I'd vote for that ticket.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I do hope we get an explanation for what is bringing some of these characters back to life after they are killed. With the wights it's obvious, but how did Beric, Cat (in the books), and Jon come back? They still obviously retain some or most of their character, whereas the wights lose almost everything outside of some basic instincts (like the wight in season one going after Mormont), and are for the most part just mindless zombies.

 

[Rich]

I do hope we get an explanation for what is bringing some of these characters back to life after they are killed. With the wights it's obvious, but how did Beric, Cat (in the books), and Jon come back? They still obviously retain some or most of their character, whereas the wights lose almost everything outside of some basic instincts (like the wight in season one going after Mormont), and are for the most part just mindless zombies.

I think you'll probably get something but it might not be terribly satisfying.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

I do hope we get an explanation for what is bringing some of these characters back to life after they are killed. With the wights it's obvious, but how did Beric, Cat (in the books), and Jon come back? They still obviously retain some or most of their character, whereas the wights lose almost everything outside of some basic instincts (like the wight in season one going after Mormont), and are for the most part just mindless zombies.

I cannot remember exactly, but when Cat comes back, isn't she, like, out of her mind?

 

[Jack Brickman]

I cannot remember exactly, but when Cat comes back, isn't she, like, out of her mind?

Yeah, but she can still speak and clearly remembers things. She's just so far lost to vengeance at that point that it's all she cares about. Keep in mind that, in the books, she thinks Bran and Rickon were murdered by Theon, Ned was killed in King's Landing, Arya is likely dead, and she saw Robb murdered in front of her eyes. To her, all that's left is revenge.

But the point being, she's not a mindless zombie. She has a goal, and we "hear" her speak in the books as well.

 

[Rich]

Back to my stuff about the White Walkers blatantly letting people live.

Not once but TWICE they let Sam live. Not in the typical movie "the bad guys are dumb" way.

First, they just strolled right on by him after seeing him.

Then, when coming for the baby, the dude just knocks his ass over and strolls right past him.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................did they know it would be Sam who would help Brandon get through the Wall? And they wanted Brandon to get through the wall?

EDIT: Random theory: The White Walkers were so concerned about getting Gilly's Baby because their power to turn things into White Walkers is , or maybe was, limited to those born on the other side of the Wall. So those baby boys are precious.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Back to my stuff about the White Walkers blatantly letting people live.

Not once but TWICE they let Sam live. Not in the typical movie "the bad guys are dumb" way.

First, they just strolled right on by him after seeing him.

Then, when coming for the baby, the dude just knocks his ass over and strolls right past him.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.................did they know it would be Sam who would help Brandon get through the Wall? And they wanted Brandon to get through the wall?

Yeah, this is why I also can't help but wonder if the visions everyone is seeing in the flames aren't the Great Other (or his physical equivalent) manipulating people to position them to benefit the Others.

 

[Jack Brickman]

@Rich It seems like there's something about Craster that is special, as he seems to be the only one who is offering up children for protection. Maybe he's got some Stark blood?

 

[BMAN]

So I’m rewatching the series and I always wondered why Jeor Mormont is in the Night’s Watch. I’ve tried looking it up and all it said was he gave up his seat to Jorah. Is it ever stated why he gave up being Lord of Bear Island?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

So I’m rewatching the series and I always wondered why Jeor Mormont is in the Night’s Watch. I’ve tried looking it up and all it said was he gave up his seat to Jorah. Is it ever stated why he gave up being Lord of Bear Island?

I don't think there's anything specific. But I know it is said somewhere that it is customary that nobles from the major houses in the North have sort of a familial obligation to serve in the Watch. Not all of them, obviously, but the families in general are expected to contribute lords as appropriate.

Jeor probably figured that he had an adult son and heir able to rule, so him going to the Watch both fulfilled that expectation of service to the Watch, and gave his son a chance to rule while he was still a young man.

 

[kosis]

You know, when you think about it, why was Jaime so upset when he saw a single white walker considering that Cercei has had an undead servant for about three seasons now?

The reactions in that scene are all odd. That chain had a lot of slack too, because if Sandor didn't yank at the exact right time, that thing was about to devour Cersei's face... and for some reason no one was trying to do a damn thing about it. Almost had herself a very fun, anticlimactic death.

 

[Cavatt]

I don't think there's anything specific. But I know it is said somewhere that it is customary that nobles from the major houses in the North have sort of a familial obligation to serve in the Watch. Not all of them, obviously, but the families in general are expected to contribute lords as appropriate.

Jeor probably figured that he had an adult son and heir able to rule, so him going to the Watch both fulfilled that expectation of service to the Watch, and gave his son a chance to rule while he was still a young man.

I thought he took the black from the shame of Jorah being a slaver as sort of a shame/penance? Was he part of the Knight's watch before that scandal?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I thought he took the black from the shame of Jorah being a slaver as sort of a shame/penance? Was he part of the Knight's watch before that scandal?

He went to the Watch before that.

 

[col63onel]

Undeniably awesome

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