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My biggest thing is that I don't see the "boom" in that line of thinking with Manziel.

I think there is the idea out there that he's either going to be really good or really bad, where as I think he's either going to be really bad or he proves the doubters wrong but it still limited in terms of his ceiling because of the lack of physical tools.

Do people really see this guy's ceiling being among the elite QBs? I'd have a hard time believing that, given his skillset.

Really good in my meaning of really good does not equal elite. I would have said he could be elite if that is what I meant. I don't think he'll ever be a QB you build a team around, but I think he can be that guy that wins you 10+ and has you in the hunt for the playoffs every year if he's surrounded by the right coaches and players. Like I said, he'll either be good or fucking awful, nothing between and nothing above.
 
Really good in my meaning of really good does not equal elite. I would have said he could be elite if that is what I meant. I don't think he'll ever be a QB you build a team around, but I think he can be that guy that wins you 10+ and has you in the hunt for the playoffs every year if he's surrounded by the right coaches and players. Like I said, he'll either be good or fucking awful, nothing between and nothing above.

I wasn't really trying to single you out there, it's a phrase we've seen a lot in the breakdowns of Manziel.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Doing groundwork on the draft class, and the more evaluators I talk to, the clearer it becomes that Blake Bortles is viewed as the best QB.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/447414401109602304">March 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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My thoughts exactly. Think we underrate Bortles, overrate Bridgewater and Manziel. Clear gap between them all, to me, and Bortles is the only guy I'd be comfortable taking at #4.
 
I've been pretty high on Bortles since his name first started to pop up in this draft. So I'm not surprised he is where he is.

To me, nothing has changed on Bridgewater. He's still everything we all drooled about 4 months ago. The media has turned on him because he looked sub par in shorts and a t-shirt when those same people joke about how ridiculous it is to evaluate guys in shorts and t-shirts.

If we end up with Bortles or Bridgewater in this draft, I'm pumped.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Raiders reported to have &quot;massive crush&quot; on Derek Carr. <a href="http://t.co/vCvph8NOzL">http://t.co/vCvph8NOzL</a></p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/448109113206001665">March 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Speculating they'd trade down from 5 and get into the 10-20 range to select him.
 
OMG! Johnny can JAM! DRAFT THIS GUY! :thumbdown In all seriously, that was impressive from a guy who's 6' nothing and 100 and nothing.

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Johnny Manziel puts on a dunk show today http://instagram.com/p/l7fgD6o3DJ
 
We gotta trade up to two in order to secure him at this point.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Comparison of Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel when pressured or flushed from the pocket. <a href="http://t.co/hq55BC77lv">pic.twitter.com/hq55BC77lv</a></p>&mdash; John Pollard (@JPSTATS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JPSTATS/statuses/448211239856918528">March 24, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Watching more tape of Tom Savage. This Pitt OL is so bad. Reminds me of pre-Harbaugh Stanford OL.</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/statuses/448275356315693056">March 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Debate: Which QB will have best NFL career -- Bortles, Bridgewater, or Manziel? <a href="http://t.co/5fnpXQjk2B">http://t.co/5fnpXQjk2B</a></p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/448517177164197888">March 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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They've been dubbed the Big Three for some time now. Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel, Central Florida's Blake Bortles and Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater are considered the top quarterback prospects in the 2014 NFL Draft, all expected to land somewhere in the first round. But which one will eventually have the best NFL career? We put that question to our experts, and here's what they had to say:

Daniel Jeremiah NFL.com
Bridgewater's experience gives him edge
There's no easy answer to this question. All three of these quarterbacks have elements of their game that translate well to the next level. However, I believe Bridgewater is the most "pro ready" of the bunch and that's why he'll be the most successful. It's rare in today's game for teams to sit young signal-callers and allow them to develop. They are rushed into action, and there is very little patience when they struggle. Bridgewater's experience under center (making full-field reads, etc.) gives him a decided advantage among these top quarterbacks.

Charles Davis NFL.com
Bridgewater has the tools, and the motivation
Bortles has the classic NFL quarterback build at 6-foot-5 and 230 pounds. Bridgewater oozes knowledge and leadership. Manziel is your ultimate wild card -- can you handle the ride he could take your team on? My prediction for best NFL career: Bridgewater. His frame might give you pause, but his production, both in and out of the pocket, is well documented. His toughness is without question, and his mind is adroit enough to have already handled a pro system, complete with making all the line calls and adjustments. He's also now on a mission. His middling pro day put his talents in doubt in the eyes of many. He will use that fuel throughout the rest of the pre-draft process and into his career.

Bucky Brooks NFL.com
Bridgewater most 'pro-ready' of three

Bridgewater will have the best career of the three quarterbacks because he is the most pro-ready of all the QBs in the draft. He also exhibits all of the qualities elite players at the position display at the next level. A disappointing pro day, at a workout designed for success, has thrown some shade on his potential, but Bridgewater remains the quarterback that I would hang my hat on in this class.

Gil Brandt NFL.com
Manziel best equipped to thrive first

The guy who has the chance to play successfully first is Manziel, who has a solid background on the fine points of quarterback play. His quarterbacks coaches at Texas A&M, Kliff Klingsbury and Jake Spavital, have taught him the necessary footwork and and how to read defenses. The second guy to play with success is going to be Bridgewater. Bortles is the furthest away because he has started the fewest number of games, but he's the guy who will play the longest because of his body build, ability and upside. Bottom line for me: All three will be successful in the NFL because they all have the traits needed to be a playoff quarterback.

Mike Huguenin College Football 24/7
Bortles best long-term bet among QBs in draft

Obviously, a lot depends on where each ends up. I think Bridgewater is the best right now, but I think Bortles -- when all is said and done -- will have the best pro career. He has prototypical size, and I like his athleticism, his football IQ, his moxie and his arm. I think he has the least bust potential, too. I worry some about Manziel. He was an electrifying college player and can be fine in the NFL with the right fit. But I'm not sure he will get that fit. I don't think Bridgewater's ceiling is as high as Bortles', but if there is any player with better intangibles in the entire draft, I'd like to meet him.

Chase Goodbread College Football 24/7
Bridgewater most polished, most likely to succeed

Bridgewater, pro day debacle aside, has the best chance among the NFL draft's top three quarterback prospects to have a strong pro career. It comes down to him and Bortles, because while Manziel has the highest ceiling of the three if his athleticism translates well to the pro game, the question isn't about ceilings -- it's about likelihood. And Bridgewater remains the most polished and pro-ready quarterback in the draft, more so than Bortles, who has more to learn than Bridgewater in the area of reading defenses. That makes Bridgewater not only the best bet for a strong career but the best bet to start as a rookie, as well.

Bryan Fischer College Football 24/7
Bridgewater comes with lowest risk

Predicting the NFL futures of quarterbacks is a risky business, especially not knowing the team or system they'll be in. In Manziel's case in particular, having a head coach that builds around his strengths instead of stubbornly sticking to his offensive system is key. Each guy has the tools to be a successful signal-caller and make the Pro Bowl a few times, but I think I'd go with Bridgewater as the one to have the best overall career. He's the most developed passer of the group and, if nothing else, can be productive as a backup for several years. I see high upside in Bortles and Manziel and think both can be really good at the next level, but Bridgewater is the safest bet.

5 of 7 call for Bridgewater to have a better career than all of them. 1 calls for Bortles and 1 for Manziel.
 
I've wanted Bridgewater since the 2013 draft thread. Some people have changed their mind in the last year, but I haven't.

Go get the man.
 

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