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Tracking the 2013 Draft Picks

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The Lakers traded in consecutive years, so I'm not sure that's it either...

Carper is the Senior Vice President/Communications for the Cleveland Cavaliers. He's high up there in the organization.

Once a draft has passed, it is no longer considered consecutive. So trading that pick for Ramon does not affect this years draft. It only includes future drafts.

PHX received the Lakers 2013 & 2015. The 2013 pick will be traded after we have had our rights fulfilled. So once we trade with the Lakers, what ever they own will then become PHX's pick.
 
Now that this guy has chimed in I am less confident that there is no protection

Sam The Bullshit Whisperer ‏@SamAmicoFSO

No protections on Lakers pick involving Cavs whatsoever. It's not a matter of believing me @davidzavac. It's a matter of accepting a fact.

All along he's been saying there is no protection and I won't doubt him again. As for Tad Carper... he could be lying to me but I don't see what the Cavs would gain from that?
 
Tad Carper just got in touch again, this time to say he was wrong and the pick is protected. Top 14. Sorry guys.
 
Talk about blue balls bro.
 
LOL, wtf is going on. Does anyone have access to the actual language on the trade or does the NBA hide that behind some firewall
 
Definitely protected. This is the language from the Lakers-Suns trade:

2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]
 
The Lakers pick being top 14 protected shouldn't affect us... :dunno:

They're underperforming but they're definitely going to make the damn playoffs
 
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Here is part of the email sent that is relevant to us...

I stand corrected. Here it is:
2013 The Cavs have their own first-round pick, Sacramento's (top 13 protected.), and Miami's pick (top 10 protected.) They also have the right to swap the Lakers pick (which now belongs to Phoenix and is top 14 protected) with the most favorable of those three picks. They also have their own second-round pick and Orlando's second-round pick.

2014, The Cavs have their own first-round pick, plus Sacramento's pick if not already used (top 12 protected.) They also may have Miami's pick if not already received (top 10 protected.) They have their own second-round pick, Memphis' second-round pick and Orlando's second-round pick.

2015, The Cavs have their own first-round pick, plus Sacramento's pick if not already used (top 10 protected.) They may also have Miami's pick if not already used. They have their own second-round pick.

2016, The Cavs have their own first-round pick, plus Sacramento's pick if not already used (top 10 protected.) They may also have Miami's pick if not already used (top 10 protected.) They have their own second-round pick.

The Cavs own 2 First Round picks from Miami. They are both top 10 protected. Assuming the Cavs get the first of those in 2013, the first allowable year the second pick can be received is 2015. If the first of those picks is not received until 2015, it is unprotected and the next pick would be received in 2017 unprotected as well.
If the Cavs have not received Sacramento's first-round pick by 2017, then Sacramento will convey its 2017 second-round pick to Cleveland (protected 56-60.)
 
I still would like to hear about this from Grant. A lot of people/websites have flip flopped on this issue. Originally no protection was announced, while it seemed crazy, it was not acknowledged. Protection did not come up until sites like RealGM & NBAdraft.net claimed there was protection. Only time will tell if in fact there really is.
 
I still would like to hear about this from Grant. A lot of people/websites have flip flopped on this issue. Originally no protection was announced, while it seemed crazy, it was not acknowledged. Protection did not come up until sites like RealGM & NBAdraft.net claimed there was protection. Only time will tell if in fact there really is.

I don't think Tad would have sent me the retraction email with all the pick/protection info if he didn't get that info from someone in the know. That's about the best source we're ever going to get on the subject.
 
I still would like to hear about this from Grant. A lot of people/websites have flip flopped on this issue. Originally no protection was announced, while it seemed crazy, it was not acknowledged. Protection did not come up until sites like RealGM & NBAdraft.net claimed there was protection. Only time will tell if in fact there really is.

Protection came up in very specific ways when the Nash trade was made. I wouldn't hold out any hope. Lakers will finish as a playoff team and the Cavs will get the pick. The question is more how high the Lakers will finish. They are playing like crap and are only one game out as things stand.
 
If that Lakers pick ends up inside the top 20...my God, thank you Ramon Sessions.
 
If that Lakers pick ends up inside the top 20...my God, thank you Ramon Sessions.

Agreed. Grant and co did a masterful job with that deal. Here's hoping for more of the same in the coming months. We have more expirings to play with (Gibson, Walton).
 
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@SamAmicoFSO @realcavsfans in my notes I don't have any pick protection on available swap on 1st's between Lakers/Cavs

one of the Lakers beat writers weighing in...
 
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