Tracking the 2013 Draft Picks

[Rich]

Wall, Beal, and Nene are nice pieces. They need to get Okafor the hell off their books, though.

There isn't much difference between Okafor and Nene. Pretty even numbers and salaries. I'd say Nene is ultimately worse because he has more years left at a really high price tag. Getting 13 million to basically play like Tristan, only w/o the rebounding.

 

[wuck]

My guess is that there is enough interest for a Mavs/Lakers game thread. So I posted one:

http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?41858-Mavs-Lakers-Apr-2-2013-10-30-PM-EST

 

[wuck]

Terrible night for the Cavs on the court.

But a great night for the Lakers draft pick as the Jazz get crushed at home by Denver. Lakers now lead by a half-game (one less loss) going into their home game vs. Memphis.

Still a long way to go, and it could go back and forth many times, but at least there was some good news tonight.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

Lakers magic number at 7.

 

[Douglar]

It was also a good night for the Bobcats. They are only one win behind Orlando. Now if only there was a team out there that could beat Orlando next Sunday and then toss a win to the Bobcats on the 17th.

 

[petes999]

Both Hollinger and Sports Club Stats have LAL about 57-60% chance of playoffs. It will be tough. They need everyone playing in synch and help from refs.

LAL - Memphis (H), Clippers (A, but really N), Hornets (H), Portland (A), Golden State (H), San Antonio (H), Houston (H)
Utah - NO (H), GS (A), Oklahoma(H), Min (H and A), Memphis (A)

Key games are going to be the last few. Does Minnesota get Love back (probably not). Do Houston and Memphis have something to play for (Houston to avoid OKC) and Memphis home field over LAC? And does Spurs rest being behind Miami but in front of OKC? Hopefully.

I was hoping for 2-3 game lead for Lakers at this point, not just 1/2 game. Lets hope for 4-3 or 5-2 finish and GS, OKC and Memphis wins against Utah. If all three win against Utah, Lakers will need 4-3 with Hornets, Portland and two of Memphis, Golden State or Spurs if they rest.

 

[rabman_gold]

Draft Pick Magic Numbers:

How to measure magic #:

1. Start with the full season's worth of games (82).
2. Add a tie-breaker (+ 1) if necessary (83). This will remove the coin-flip.
3. Compare the team you want to be better than (or worse than) a specific team.
   1. Ex. You want the Cavs to be worse than the Phoenix Suns.
   2. Ex. You want the Lakers to be better than the Utah Jazz.
4. Take the Cavs loss totals, add the Suns win totals, subtract the total from the season AND tie-breaker (83) to the get the result.
5. You do the same for the Lakers, except add the Lakers win totals and the Jazz loss totals and subtract 83 to get the result.
6. Whatever the higher number is (a team's added wins or losses), that's the true magic number.

Seed	Team	Ws	Ls	%	M#	1st #	3rd #	5th #
1		18	57	.240	--	7	3	--
2		19	57	.250	--	7	3	--
3		22	52	.297	--	4	8	5
4		23	52	.307	--	3	8	5
5		25	51	.329	--	1	6	6
6		26	49	.347	--	--	5	5
7		27	48	.360	--	--	4	4
8		28	47	.373	--	--	3	3
9		28	47	.373	--	--	3	3
10		28	46	.378	--	--	3	3
11		30	44	.405	3	--	1	1
12		33	42	.440	2	--	--	--
13		36	38	.486	6	--	--	--
14		39	37	.513	7	--	--	--
EC		36	38	.486	3	N/A	N/A	N/A
WC		39	36	.520	7	N/A	N/A	N/A

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To be fair, I'll give an explanation.

1. The first set of numbers after the wins, losses, and win percentage is the magic number, or #. It exemplifies how many losses a lottery team needs (or wins a playoff team in their conference needs) to earn a seed in the lottery. Simple enough. It also shows the number for the two 8th playoff seeds in each conference, but in our case, the Los Angeles Lakers are there.
2. The next set of numbers is the magic number to clinch the first lottery seed, the most amount of ping pong balls. We unrealistically try to pray to pass the Magic and Bobcats to no avail (and rightfully so), so follow along as other team fall out of the race with us.
3. So predictably, the next two would be for the 3rd worst and 5th worst records. In the draft, the players we want to get would be in the top 5, since statistically, they are known to be the ones that become all-NBA players. Just an encouragement to be bad but not sacrifice TOO much.

 

[Joe Henderson]

these rabman magic number things never made any sense to me at all. which is probably my fault. to be more precise, i usually understand everything about them, except the numbers.

is this one indicating, for example, that the Bobcats need 7 losses to clinch the #1 lottery seed and the Pistons only need 1 loss? The Cavs need fewer losses for the #1 seed than for #3?

 

[pthompson09]

these rabman magic number things never made any sense to me at all. which is probably my fault. to be more precise, i usually understand everything about them, except the numbers.

is this one indicating, for example, that the Bobcats need 7 losses to clinch the #1 lottery seed and the Pistons only need 1 loss? The Cavs need fewer losses for the #1 seed than for #3?

It is essentially an elimination number. For example, the Pistons will be eliminated from the race for the #1 lottery seed with a win or a Bobcats loss. The Cavs will be eliminated from the race with a combination of wins and/or Bobcats losses that add to 4. This same explanation can also be used in the race for the #3 and #5 lottery seeds.

 

[Birdy89]

I was hoping for 2-3 game lead for Lakers at this point, not just 1/2 game. Lets hope for 4-2 or 5-1 finish and GS, OKC and Memphis wins against Utah. If all three win, Lakers only need 3-3 which is doable with Hornets, Portland and Memphis or Spurs if they rest.

If Utah finishes 3-3 in their last 6 to end 42-40, then L.A needs to finish 4-3 (not 3-3) in their last 7 to finish at 43-39.

 

[petes999]

If Utah finishes 3-3 in their last 6 to end 42-40, then L.A needs to finish 4-3 (not 3-3) in their last 7 to finish at 43-39.

Thanks. Was a bit rushed and focused on losses, forgetting LA had one more game to play and thus had to win.

 

[The Process God]

If Utah finishes 3-3 in their last 6 to end 42-40, then L.A needs to finish 4-3 (not 3-3) in their last 7 to finish at 43-39.

That's really not that bad at all. We have a really good chance of getting that pick!

Oh, and Chrisrich, expect some playful shit to be flung at you if the Lakers end up making the playoffs after all of the "we're not getting that pick" comments you've made. :chuckles:

 

[texascavsfan]

That's really not that bad at all. We have a really good chance of getting that pick!

Oh, and Chrisrich, expect some playful shit to be flung at you if the Lakers end up making the playoffs after all of the "we're not getting that pick" comments you've made. :chuckles:

 

[Daniel89]

That's really not that bad at all. We have a really good chance of getting that pick!

Far from a good chance with that horrendous schedule left for the Lakers... not getting my hopes up at all

 

[chrisrich91]

That's really not that bad at all. We have a really good chance of getting that pick!

Oh, and Chrisrich, expect some playful shit to be flung at you if the Lakers end up making the playoffs after all of the "we're not getting that pick" comments you've made. :chuckles:

I stand by my prediction...

But you better believe I'd welcome shit being flung at me if it meant getting that pick. :chuckles: