Tristan Thompson

[I'mWithDan]

What do you mean we have zero flexibility when it comes to him? We can match ANY offer and if no one offers him one we get him on the cheap for another year. That gives us all the flexibility.

Not when TT can then play on his QO and become an unrestricted free agent next season. Without the ability to replace TT with a comparable player, the FO doesn't have a lot of options.

Paul can just tell the Cavs either sign at this number or they're not pursuing offer sheets. They'll take the QO and bet that TT improves again this season.

And that's not even factoring in any of the LBJ connections....

 

[Otsego Mar]

So what's he gonna do? Go somewhere else for less money? If no one else is willing to pay him 15 million, why are we?

But but......LeBron.......Rich Paul........

 

[Lazor]

Not when TT can then play on his QO and become an unrestricted free agent next season. Without the ability to replace TT with a comparable player, the FO doesn't have a lot of options.

Paul can just tell the Cavs either sign at this number or they're not pursuing offer sheets. They'll take the QO and bet that TT improves again this season.

And that's not even factoring in any of the LBJ connections....

And we still have his bird rights next year so we can still offer more than anyone if we have to

 

[Rich]

Not when TT can then play on his QO and become an unrestricted free agent next season. Without the ability to replace TT with a comparable player, the FO doesn't have a lot of options.

Paul can just tell the Cavs either sign at this number or they're not pursuing offer sheets. They'll take the QO and bet that TT improves again this season.

And that's not even factoring in any of the LBJ connections....

Hey, Tristan Thompson wants to go play for like 10 million less than he otherwise could make, let's see him do it.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

So what's he gonna do? Go somewhere else for less money? If no one else is willing to pay him 15 million, why are we?

LeBron's power over this situation, like it or not, is going to get Tristan somewhere from 13.5-15 million a year. 4 years/58 million is something I could see easily being done. The fact that LeBron can make this a really painful off-season if we try to play hardball with his agency and with one of his favorite young teammates is the reason that no hard-ball will be played. Is saving about 10-12 million dollars (say 20 counting luxury tax) over the course of 4-5 years really worth the chance of pissing LeBron off and jeopardizing the potential for a good 3-4 years of title contention?

Gilbert will take care of Tristan very swiftly and he will be compensated. He's a steadily improving double-double machine. He's a monster offensive rebounder, a very solid and versatile defender who keeps getting better. He improves every year and is still young, and personally I've seen him show up every season even better physically. Stronger, more muscle, etc. He's really coming into his own as a player and he's got a nice little touch around the rim that he expands every year.

I'd say 4/58. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4/62. Either way, I'd be fine with it.

 

[abrahavt]

The real cost of Tristan

http://network.yardbarker.com/all_s...cleveland_cavaliers_auto_module_head_19047428

 

[Otsego Mar]

The real cost of Tristan

http://network.yardbarker.com/all_s...cleveland_cavaliers_auto_module_head_19047428

"Thompson will get a max offer from someone"

Yea, I doubt it.......

 

[MirORich]

This pertains a little bit to Tristan but also to just any salary addition we make this year.

I hate seeing people say a draft pick or player x in FA or player Y via a trade will end up costing the Cavs their salary plus the extra tax money.

It's not any individual players, new or old that trigger the excess luxury tax payments. It's the commitment to retaining and adding to a championship level roster on the whole that incurs the cost.

So the Cavs didn't trade out of 24 last week because they didn't want to pay a supposed $5 million total for a 1.1 million dollar draft slot. They're going to pay regardless. They just wanted to make sure the player they paid for that roster spot(be it someone at 24 had they stayed there or a vet min FA) is a player who is going to contribute THIS year to our championship pursuits.

 

[Kizzle]

"Thompson will get a max offer from someone"

Yea, I doubt it.......

Who? The damn 76ers?

I truly think TT's deal will end up about 12 mil per if no one sends an offer. cant see any team throwing out more that 10 mi for him tho. Dude is a really really good offensive rebounder and that's it

 

[TyGuy]

Has any team shown interest in Tristan? I know that he is restricted, so that makes things difficult. However, draymond green, Jimmy butler and Tobias Harris are all guys that have had interest shown from other teams.

The entire season guys like Reggie and webber were like "you go boy, go get paid!" After talking about turning down 12.

I don't see anybody banging on the door to pay him 12 plus. There just isn't enough offense there to allocate so much cap space for.

It's like we are bidding with ourselves. Really, it will be a favor paid to rich Paul for getting Lebron back.

It sucks having to pay such a heavy tax for his services, but it isn't our money.

 

[Gus Zing]

Who? The damn 76ers?

I truly think TT's deal will end up about 12 mil per if no one sends an offer. cant see any team throwing out more that 10 mi for him tho. Dude is a really really good offensive rebounder and that's it

Tristan played very well in the finals. 10/13.

However, we really needed him to win or even dominate that Draymond Green matchup in order to win the finals.

Kevin Love would at least had the potential to do that for us.

I want Tristan back. But I'm starting to wonder how much of a downgrade would Bismarck Biyombo be?

Tristan is suddenly a max level player averaging 10/11 in the playoffs per 36. 11/11 per 36 in the regular season.

Biyombo is a 9/12/3 player per 36 mins (regular season, but still). I think he would be a great guy to have at a cheaper contract. He's just 22 as well. He was in a dumpster fire organization the last few years, but is an elite shot blocker.

However, I'm hoping Christmas can be that kind of player for us down the road.

I'm a fan of Tristan. I just hope he really develops his offensive game because 15 mil is a lot of cash for a backup big man.

I think he'll improve though. He's still young.

 

[Paul]

I have a question about negotiations with Tristan. Tristan will get offers presumably on July 1st for free agency. The Cavs are in a position where they can simply match or exceed the highest offer to retain Tristan. Would it not make sense for the Cavs to sit back and wait as long as they can before they approach Tristan and see what ends up being the highest offer he receives and then simply match that? I find it hard to believe that any other team will offer him more than say 12 or 13 mil a year. To me, he only really makes sense on a team that has a ton of great offensive players, and there aren't really a ton of those teams who would be looking to add a big. So can the Cavs simply sit back and match the best offer at the end of the process or is it more complicated than that?

 

[Evgeni]

I have a question about negotiations with Tristan. Tristan will get offers presumably on July 1st for free agency. The Cavs are in a position where they can simply match or exceed the highest offer to retain Tristan. Would it not make sense for the Cavs to sit back and wait as long as they can before they approach Tristan and see what ends up being the highest offer he receives and then simply match that? I find it hard to believe that any other team will offer him more than say 12 or 13 mil a year. To me, he only really makes sense on a team that has a ton of great offensive players, and there aren't really a ton of those teams who would be looking to add a big. So can the Cavs simply sit back and match the best offer at the end of the process or is it more complicated than that?

According to the article, we will pay 45 million in taxes just for giving TT 10 million, and then risk paying repeated tax as well, which may be just as expensive. That's a hell a lot of money. I'm wondering how Gilbert intends to get this money back.

 

[Paul]

According to the article, we will pay 45 million in taxes just for giving TT 10 million, and then risk paying repeated tax as well, which may be just as expensive. That's a hell a lot of money. I'm wondering how Gilbert intends to get this money back.

I'm guessing the plan would be to do this only for a year or two and try and maximize the potential of LeBron's best years, and hopefully years with Love and Kyrie.

Will it be the goal of TT and LeBron and their agent to try and force the Cavs to rapidly pony up and pay TT the max contract or close to it, even if there's no evidence on the open market that he's worth that?

Will LeBron then turn around and do the same thing with JR and Shump? Try and force the Cavs to pay higher than they are worth?

It makes me wonder if the Cavs might be better off letting TT go completely if they could get Splitter from the Spurs with the Trade exception.

Everything is hunky dory if Gilbert is willing to pay obscene amounts year after year, but what happens when Gilbert gets fed up?

 

[bigfoot5415]

I ran through the teams that have $12 million plus in cap space, and cant find legitimate threats for a max deal. I didn't factor in holds, but the market for him is slim. Many of the teams below have key pieces to pay this offseason.

The big teams will chase Aldridge, someone will pay attention to Josh Smith for their PF, and all of the ranked PF that are below him will fall into place for much cheaper. The market for bigs with his skill set even this year will be from $8-$12 million.

No way in hell will he get more than $13 million. I still dont buy the original offer. I think that was more distraction than anything.

Then with all of this space you have to figure that Matthews, Afflalo, Green, Harris, Jordan, Jackson, Carroll, & Monroe will all get a 1st look before Tristan.