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Managerial tenure in Cleveland ends after seven seasons

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By Anthony Castrovince / MLB.com

09/30/09 11:40 AM ET

CLEVELAND -- Seven years after it began, the Eric Wedge era of Indians baseball is over.

The Indians are in the early stages of what general manager Mark Shapiro referred to as a "reloading" period, and the reload will extend to the managerial position and the coaching staff.

A 1:30 p.m. ET press conference was scheduled Wednesday at Progressive Field to announce that Wedge and his coaches have all been relieved of their duties. Wedge and his staff will stay aboard for the season's final six games, including the four-game set in Boston this weekend.

According to a team source, Wedge has known his fate for several days, while the coaches -- including pitching coach Carl Willis, hitting coach Derek Shelton, bench coach Jeff Datz, first-base coach Luis Rivera, third-base coach Joel Skinner and bullpen coach Chuck Hernandez -- were informed of the moves following Tuesday's rainout against the White Sox.

The Indians, who will be on the hook to pay Wedge in the neighborhood of $1.3 million in 2010, are in the midst of an organizational review. Team owner Larry Dolan, team president Paul Dolan, Shapiro and assistant GM Chris Antonetti have been meeting to discuss, among other things, the managerial situation. It had been speculated for weeks that ownership might push the front office to make a change in the dugout.

Once the season is over, the Indians will formally begin the search to replace Wedge. An internal hire is considered unlikely. If that's the case, then the Tribe will go outside the organization to hire its manager for the first time since John McNamara took over in 1990.

It is possible that some members of Wedge's staff will stay on, if the new manager sees fit.

With a 64-92 record entering Wednesday's doubleheader against the White Sox, the Indians are wrapping up their worst season since going 68-94 in 2003, which was Wedge's first year at the helm. The club is in danger of finishing in last place in an American League Central, which it had high hopes of winning coming into the season. The Indians have never finished last in the history of the Central. The last Tribe team to finish last in its division was the 1991 club that finished seventh in the AL East.

Regardless of where the Indians finish, '09 can safely be labeled one of the most disappointing seasons in club history. And the fallout of that disappointment has been a major upheaval in player personnel.

The dismissal of the 41-year-old Wedge is the first major change among the organization's higher-ups, and it serves as the Tribe's mea culpa, of sorts, to a fan base frustrated by the recent trades of star players Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez. Wedge, the 2007 AL Manager of the Year, had been a frequent target of fan criticism throughout his tenure, and that criticism became even more pointed this year.

At one time, Shapiro and Wedge were seemingly joined at the hip. Shapiro picked Wedge, a former catcher with the Red Sox and Rockies, to be the club's skipper after Wedge spent five years managing in the Tribe's farm system. Shapiro often referred to Wedge as his "partner."

That partnership, however, began to erode over the past two years, as the Indians entered the '08 and '09 seasons with high hopes, only to find themselves out of contention by the All-Star break. Slow starts, in general, have been a major knock on Wedge. His Tribe teams went a combined 73-96 in April.

Still, when the heat on Wedge was particularly scorching at midseason this year, Shapiro doused the flames by announcing that Wedge and his coaching staff would remain aboard for the second half and be evaluated at season's end.

But whereas the '08 club rebounded with a strong second half to reach the .500 mark, this year's team has floundered in September, sealing Wedge's fate. The Indians recently ended an 11-game losing streak that fell one loss shy of tying a club record.

In seven seasons, Wedge has compiled a record of 560-568, with one division title and playoff appearance in 2007, when the Indians finished one win shy of the World Series. Among the 39 full-time managers in Tribe history, Wedge ranks fifth in wins, third in losses and fourth in games managed.

When it comes to candidates to replace Wedge, former Tribe pitcher and farm director and current Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell has been a popular possibility listed by fans and the media, though he has no managerial experience at any level. But according to a recent report in FoxSports.com, Farrell has a clause in his contract that prevents him from accepting a managerial job with another team until after the 2010 season. However, a subsequent report in The Boston Globe indicated that the clause could be removed if the Red Sox received some sort of compensation.

Anthony Castrovince is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
 
Re: Wedge to be fired today?

Just came on the air after TPIR. Yeah baby! Get your ass out of town!
 
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Wow, what a wierd setup. Wedge to stay on for the last 6 games? I t hink that says alot of Wedge's respect for Mark and vice versa. Same goes for the other coaches, too.

Sorry, but this sucks. Wedge shares some blame for the last two disappointing years and I won't deflect from him. There was reason to fire him, at least when it comes to the reasons used to can managers. I still think the Tribe is jettisoning a good manager. Oh well, hopefully they find one who can make effective BPs regardless of talent level. Then again, this will probably be the most talented BP the team has had since 05 next year. I can only hope they find a manager as dedicated and genuine. This team doesn't need 'fresh blood' on the coaching staff, whatever the fuck that is. They need pitchers that won't wilt under the pressure. They need to rebuild a staff that began to fall apart when Westbrook blew out his elbow. They need to find leaders for the clubhouse, the ones Wedge tried to nurture but never materialized. These things will win games for this team. I guess if Shapiro could build a good working relationship with this staff he will be able to do the same with the next. Frankly, not going to worry or get worked up over who the next manager is, more interested in seeing who they sign for the pitching staff.
 
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Not a terribly surprising piece of news. With all of the roster turnover we have seen over the last couple of seasons, a turnover of the managerial staff is probably the right move. I'm not saying that Eric Wedge is a poor manager, I just think that the cloud hanging over him here in Cleveland is something that would have been too difficult for him to overcome.

I am glad to hear that the Indians are leaning towards finding someone outside of the organization, and not promoting from the minor league ranks. Perhaps a breath of fresh air from a different team/philosophy will turn out to be a welcome change. For example, a bench coach from a team that has had success over the last few seasons, whoever that might be.
 
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What the Tribe needs is the quality of starting pitchers they traded the last two seasons.

They also need to learn, and execute, fundamental baseball. Given the market in Clevleland, the team will never keep the star players who can win meaningful games when it really counts. So you need merely good players who can do the little things that win games, ala the Twins.
 
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I hope Shapiro stays, he has gotten the right players but we haven't had a real manager to help them win games.
 
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I'm on board w/ Shapiro too. Though I wish he'd improve his drafting skills, he's done a pretty respectable job of loading the organization with young talent.
 
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FYI: www.sportstimeohio.com will air a special edition of "all bets are off" with Drennan starting at 1:15pm if you're interested. I know ESPN will also air the press conference, but if you are like me, I'd prefer to watch on the Cleveland Show. :)
 
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Just sent in my application :fingersx:
 
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Travis Fryman, come on down!
 
Re: Wedge to be fired today?

One Eric down, one Eric to go...
 
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I'm on board w/ Shapiro too. Though I wish he'd improve his drafting skills, he's done a pretty respectable job of loading the organization with young talent.

Generally it's not up to the GM to conduct the draft. He'll usually be around for the first 1,2,3 picks. After that it's up to the scouting department.

That said, I'm also on board with Shapiro. Considering the market we're in, he's probably the best guy to handle the GM of a mid-market team.
 
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whoa; Did anyone else get the feeling watching Shapiro that this was the Dolans sort of forcing Shapiro to make this change? Boy; I sure did.
 

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