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Who is the Browns' General Manager for the 2013 off-season?

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If I had to bet my life on it:

Lombardi is hired, but will just be a "glorified yes man" to a big name coach.
 
If I had to bet my life on it:

Lombardi is hired, but will just be a "glorified yes man" to a big name coach.

I think it would be Lombardi as director of Player Personell and Chip Kelly or Josh McDaniels as HC and GM with Banner making all final decisions on the draft and roster.
 
I think it would be Lombardi as director of Player Personell and Chip Kelly or Josh McDaniels as HC and GM with Banner making all final decisions on the draft and roster.

Yeah probably something like this. I don't think McDaniels is going to happen, though.

Banner better know what the hell he's doing
 
OBR reported Shurmur was relieved of his duties around 8 pm last night.....haven't heard anything about Heckert yet
 
1200 receiving yards and 10 TDs in your 2nd NFL season is just "above average"?

Yes he fell into the perfect system but that doesn't take away from him being one of the top young receivers in the NFL.
 
Great list, Smooth. I definitely have Caldwell as my top candidate, as well; aside from me ranking Riddick a little higher than you, we are pretty much aligned. I also think a Caldwell/Roman GM/HC combo would be a fantastic way to begin the Haslam era; however, I don't see that happening after today's PC.

They way Haslam/Banner are setting up the Browns' heirarchy, I doubt many guys on your list will view the Browns' GM/Head of Personnel/etc position as anything more than a lateral move (at best)...aside from turd Lombardi. Maybe Spytek gets a promotion?

Hearing today's press conference, the desire to have an offensive mind, and my spider sense telling me how Haslam wants to make a big splash makes me think that HC target #1 is Chip Kelly. That moneyball article from last month makes me think that Kelly's algorithms/ANALytics would endear him to Banner.


I just saw Lane on OBR report that Mike Lombardi IS NOT a serious candidate for a position of influence with the Cleveland Browns, posted around 1130am this AM:thumbup:
 
I was looking into this a while ago and stumbled on a great article.

Here is the link: http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/updated-next-nfl-general-managers

Some excerpts:

David Caldwell/Director of Player Personnel/Atlanta Falcons: Caldwell, who was promoted to his new role earlier this year where he will oversee the college and pro scouting departments, also interviewed for the Indianapolis Colts GM job earlier this year, which eventually went to Ryan Grigson. While most if not all of his scouting experience came from the college side prior to this season, Caldwell’s name has been brought up to me on several occasions over the past few year as one of the top GM candidates based on his outstanding eye for talent and solid organizational skills. In fact, one current NFL GM said he would put him in the top-5 of best candidates available.

Doug Whaley/Buffalo Bills/Assistant General Manager+Director of Pro Personnel: Because of his dual role he received when he joined the Bills in 2010, Whaley is basically second in command on the personnel side for the Bills. And he has plenty of experience with pro and college scouting (with the Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, and Seattle Seahawks), which is a major plus for any prospective general manager candidate. While it’s assumed that he’ll eventually replace GM Buddy Nix when Nix decides to retire, it still wouldn’t be surprising to see other teams show interest in Whaley going forward.

and my favorite choice:
Tom Gamble/San Francisco 49ers/Director of Player Personnel: In my 14 years of covering the NFL, I don’t recall getting as many strong comments about a potential GM candidate from high-ranking personnel executives and NFL player agents as I’ve received about Gamble in doing research for this piece. In fact, one NFL GM said my list should start with Gamble for the very fact that he’s about as well-rounded of a candidate as you’ll find.

And when you examine Gamble’s background, you can understand why.

He got started in the NFL at a very young age -- literally right out of college -- with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1988. His father, Harry, was the president of the team at that time. And the younger Gamble was around football growing up. His father was a long-time coach (pro and college) and then moved on to become an NFL executive late in his career.

Like his father, Tom Gamble is a rarity in NFL scouting departments these days: He not only has extensive pro and college scouting experience, he has experience with contract negations and the salary cap, and even has coaching experience (defensive assistant/quality control coach with the New York Jets for two seasons: 1995-1996) on the NFL side. While Gamble was promoted to his current role nearly two years ago, other teams have also been interested in him in recent years (St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders on more than one occasion).

Now in his 25th NFL season, Gamble has worked for five teams over that time period and has touched just about every possible aspect on the personnel side. He has helped build 10 playoff teams (four with the Eagles, five with the Indianapolis Colts, and one with the 49ers—and very likely another one this season).

Before taking a job with the 49ers back in 2005, Gamble worked for seven seasons as a college scout under former Colts GM Bill Polian, who is widely recognized as one of the best personnel evaluators in NFL history.

“He’s got a complete grounding in the game. He grew up in the game,” Polian explained to me recently about Gamble. “This is exceedingly important when you consider there are a lot of issues that you have to deal with when becoming a general manager that will come up with a team. You’re at a big disadvantage if you don’t have this experience in dealing with everything. That’s why non-football people have a harder time succeeding. Because Tom has so much experience and grew up around the game with his dad, he’s going to be more prepared than most. That’s a huge advantage.”

And it’s that extensive experience which should help Gamble land a GM job for next season.

UPDATED 12/21: Two personnel sources said that Gamble should receive attention from at least three teams for expected GM openings next month.

Don't think we will be able to land Gamble though. I think Banner really eliminated any great GM candidates by stating he wants the coach to have final say on the roster. That, and the HC is apparently going to pick the GM.
 
I was looking into this a while ago and stumbled on a great article.

Here is the link: http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/updated-next-nfl-general-managers

Some excerpts:





and my favorite choice:

Don't think we will be able to land Gamble though. I think Banner really eliminated any great GM candidates by stating he wants the coach to have final say on the roster. That, and the HC is apparently going to pick the GM.

That's not what Banner said. He said that it depends on the coach they get and what their strengths are.

Did anyone listen to the really big show yesterday? Rizzo was saying Lombardi is trying to recruit somebody and we won't believe who. He said he was going to reveal it later, but I had to go into work. Thus, I didn't hear it.
 
I wonder if Haslam/Banner realize that the Cleveland media is already critiquing the idea of Banner as the guy making most of the personnel decisions. They're tenure is going to be off to bad start with the fanbase unless things go very well over the next couple weeks.
 
I wonder if Haslam/Banner realize that the Cleveland media is already critiquing the idea of Banner as the guy making most of the personnel decisions. They're tenure is going to be off to bad start with the fanbase unless things go very well over the next couple weeks.

Which is why if they're sold on Kelly as the HC.....I just can't see them staying with Weeden. Either way, they need to make a "splash" at HC and it must be the right choice this time. No Shurmur 2.0, Mangini 2.0, etc.
 
Which is why if they're sold on Kelly as the HC.....I just can't see them staying with Weeden. Either way, they need to make a "splash" at HC and it must be the right choice this time. No Shurmur 2.0, Mangini 2.0, etc.

Can you imagine many head coaches who would come in and see Weeden and say 'this is my guy'?

I doubt it
 
Can you imagine many head coaches who would come in and see Weeden and say 'this is my guy'?

I doubt it

Highly unlikely, but Weeden always was going to prove himself over the course of a couple years. Everyone knows he's not a Luck or RG3, where he was going to come in and light it up. He's a smart guy, and it's totally plausible he improves greatly and things in the next year or two.

At any rate, I think Weeden's days are basically numbered here. With the new regime, you're getting a new owner, president, GM, coaching staff, and more than likely, a new QB sooner or later. At this point, it's highly unlikely they are going to like Weeden enough to not bring in their own guy. It's just the way it is when you completely start the rebuilding process again.
 
I wonder if Haslam/Banner realize that the Cleveland media is already critiquing the idea of Banner as the guy making most of the personnel decisions. They're tenure is going to be off to bad start with the fanbase unless things go very well over the next couple weeks.

I don't think they are what the media thinks. They are not consumers of the product. Plus I don't think haslam is going to care about fans getting upset if it takes more then three years. He said they are trying to create a team that is a contender every year not a team that makes it one year.
 
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